i learned this a looonnnggg time ago (20+ years ago)...i was joking around about something and some old hag came up and stated she though i was s”inappropriate” in what i said.. meanwhile this hag used to refer to me as “young fellow””
since then i keep my mouth shut- people at the company i worked at for 32 years think i am unfriendly but i don’t care- i do my job and keep my mouth shut....
Gee, it appears to me many women these days dress to show as much of their “private parts” as possible without getting arrested for public nudity and yet get offend when men noticed that. Just who are they trying to impress...other women?
Men Now “Walking on eggshells”?.......No they aren’t. They will totally ignore the women and the women will be worse off than they were before.
The only ones ‘Walking on Eggshells’ will be the millenial girly soyboys.............
It is not surprising that so many job interviews are by phone now.
I cannot follow the logic of the following: “ The movement is about the raw exercise of the power to shame, to destroy lives and careers, and to change the fundamental dynamic in male-female interpersonal relations in and out of the workplace.
In some ways, this is a good and necessary thing.”
No, it’s a bad thing. period.
Women never lie about sex.
and
Believe the survivors.
This is why civility, etiquette, and honor are no longer enough.
This backlash isn't caused because people are afraid to engage in harassment. It's because they are afraid to engage in any behavior at all because some overly sensitive brittle female can say she felt targeted or uncomfortable and thats enough to ruin your career. Then the woman will post a "you go girl" post on facebook about how strong she is for taking you down and suddenly your an internet monster from coast to coast. Because you did something like say good morning and smile but it was really a microaggression.
So it's not ending bad behavior anymore. It's breeding an environment of fear. Ironically what it was supposed to be getting rid of, only now it's okay because it's the patriarchy that's scared.
As mentioned in a previous post most people still refer to “#” as Pound sign. Therefor the name #METOO seems inappropriate as a name for a woman’s group.
“While you should treat all women in and out of the workplace respectfully, #MeToo is not about that, or about protecting women. The movement is about the raw exercise of the power to shame, to destroy lives and careers, and to change the fundamental dynamic in male-female interpersonal relations in and out of the workplace.”
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I worked for years (20) in a male-dominated work environment. I expected respect from them and I got it & gave it in return. I also thanked them for opening doors, shared some great conversations where I could easily have become ‘offended’ if I were thin-skinned, and achieved a high level of success/position in the organization. Men and women ARE different - they communicate differently and I found that out early - I chose to appreciate those differences rather than try to change them (i.e. the men). There were occasions where I had to stand up for myself and land a few “punches”, but while the guys were surprised a woman would do that, they were not only surprised, but impressed. With the exception of one guy (who was worse for wear when I got through with him), it was a great experience. To those #metoo womyn who are “b!tching” about the way men are now ‘walking on eggshells’ I say this:
SELF-INFLICTED & you deserve what you’re getting - unfortunately, you are ruining it for all women, but then again, that is what you Progressives do ... eventually ruin/poison everything for everyone.
Toxic workplace achieved, business closes within a year.
“If men avoid working or traveling with women alone, or stop mentoring women for fear of being accused of sexual harassment, those men are going to back out of a sexual harassment complaint and right into a sex discrimination complaint.”
I’m so glad I was a young ‘career’ woman during the 80’s. I had many AWESOME mentors; male and female. No one EVER tried any ‘funny stuff,’ and all were genuinely concerned that I advance in my career; many trained me to eventually take their jobs.
All were professional beyond imagining, and most are still good friends to this day.
I, in turn, did as much as I could for those coming up after me. Again, same results and life-long friendships formed.
It’s such a shame that a normal, productive working relationship/environment has gone the way of the Dodo Bird. :(
Harder for women? How? They find it harder to threaten men with sexual harassment? They wanted to be "one of the guys" and found they didn't like it? They wanted this. They got it.
Glad I married a real woman 27 years ago.
Sorry but Real Men don’t walk on Egg Shells when it comes to approaching Real Women. But there is the Rub, you can’t tell who is a woman or man anymore with these They millennials:-)
We did step up and got our asses handed to us. So if you want me to mentor a woman, fine, show me the no terminate clause in my contract. Show me the no retaliation clause in my contract. Show me the $50,000,000 personal liability policy. None of those... then fagetaboutit. Most of the time I keep to myself as I'm busy. But I'd talk to anyone about anything they wanted to, within reason. Not any more.
These have been my policies, strictly adhered, for my entire professional career.
I am baffled that anyone thought the other behaviors were OK.
And it was barely a moral judgement.
It was predominantly self preservation.
40 years and counting.
Unfortunately, we have all been driven to a point where one must be a mind-stapled automaton at work.
Not so difficult for me, as I am a freelancer and learned long ago that I have no friends in the workplace
Do NOT hire women!! They are TROUBLE!! So are some Special Groups!