Posted on 11/27/2018 2:35:30 PM PST by Kaslin
Chief Justice John Roberts has been drawn into President Trump's web.
Last week the president criticized the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, based in San Francisco, calling it "a lawless disgrace." The New York Times writes, "Mr. Trump's remarks came after a federal trial judge ordered the administration to resume accepting asylum claims from migrants no matter where or how they entered the United States."
The judge issuing the ruling was Jon S. Tigar, of the United States District Court in San Francisco, whom Trump quickly singled out as an "Obama judge." This prompted a rare pushback from Chief Justice John Roberts, who said in a statement, "We do not have Obama judges, or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. The independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for."
The problem, as the president correctly sees it, is that the judiciary in too many cases appears to have become independent of the Constitution, making laws and reading liberal policies into the document that are not there. If all judges thought the same, as Roberts seems to suggest, why are there so many 5-4 rulings by the high court?
Conservatives have long complained that liberal judges advance policies that would never get through Congress. Besides, if there are no Trump, Obama, Bush or Clinton judges, then why the battle over every candidate nominated by a Republican president? Have we already forgotten the recent all-out war mounted by the left against Justice Brett Kavanaugh?
Chief Justice John Roberts has been drawn into President Trump's web.
Last week the president criticized the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, based in San Francisco, calling it "a lawless disgrace." The New York Times writes, "Mr. Trump's remarks came after a federal trial judge ordered the administration to resume accepting asylum claims from migrants no matter where or how they entered the United States."
The judge issuing the ruling was Jon S. Tigar, of the United States District Court in San Francisco, whom Trump quickly singled out as an "Obama judge." This prompted a rare pushback from Chief Justice John Roberts, who said in a statement, "We do not have Obama judges, or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. The independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for."
The problem, as the president correctly sees it, is that the judiciary in too many cases appears to have become independent of the Constitution, making laws and reading liberal policies into the document that are not there. If all judges thought the same, as Roberts seems to suggest, why are there so many 5-4 rulings by the high court?
Conservatives have long complained that liberal judges advance policies that would never get through Congress. Besides, if there are no Trump, Obama, Bush or Clinton judges, then why the battle over every candidate nominated by a Republican president? Have we already forgotten the recent all-out war mounted by the left against Justice Brett Kavanaugh?
President Truman vetoed the measure, but Congress overrode him. It is the standard that ought to be employed today.
This debate is more than a legal squabble between politicians and judges with differing points of view. It is about the character and makeup of our country and whether we who are now living will bequeath to our descendants something resembling what our predecessors passed to us.
Most immigrants in the past wanted to learn English, embrace the culture and become fully American, not hyphenated Americans with agendas and policies brought from their homelands.
The back and forth between President Trump and Chief Justice Roberts has brought the real issue to the forefront again where it is likely to remain through the next election and, depending on the outcome, for elections after that until it is resolved either to the benefit or detriment of the nation.
Roberts did that for some reason. He wants to recuse himself from something that’s fixing to hit the fan.
“What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them.”
Total lying BS from a turn-coat.
Mark it down. Roberts is our enemy.
” Chief Justice John Roberts, who said in a statement, “We do not have Obama judges, or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges. What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. The independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.””
Please John, my hip boots are out in the garage, and your bull$hit is getting too deep to operate without them. BTW, did you all know that the SCOTUS justices do not accept e-mails? They expect you to write them a “formal letter.” It’s all spelled out in great detail on the Court’s website. There are strict rules for the format of same. And here we thought Congress was high up on itself!
I’m convinced that Obama has something on Roberts and used it to blackmail him on the Obamacare case. And, whatever it is, he still has it and is STILL using it.
The judiciary serves best when it meets those standards, of course - but even if they do, whenever they rule in favor of someone of the party which nominated them, they are subject to criticism on the basis of who nominated them. So Roberts is doing his best to check the cynical impulse to criticize on that basis.Precisely the same thing when SCOTUS brought out its Bush v. Gore decision. The majority knew perfectly well that in that case the Supreme Court of Florida was putting its thumb heavily on the scale in favor of Gore, but it twisted logic into a pretzel to avoid saying so. And even admitted that, in effect, by enjoining lawyers in future cases from ever citing the rationale of Bush v. Gore.
Likewise Roberts knows that there are Obama and Clinton judges, and then there are judges who faithfully attempt to decide cases on their merits in relation to written law. But he objects to having that said, lest it delegitimate not only the court Trump is criticizing, but courts in general.
“He wants to recuse himself from something that’s fixing to hit the fan.”
Roberts’ comment was very general. Either it recuses him from no case at all or it recuses him from all cases.
More fundamentally than this being about the character and make up of our country, it is about the perceived legitimacy of our courts and judges. They have been dragged into the TDS that the Dems have been operating under since he became the Republican front runner in the primaries. They purposely go to the ultra liberal Ninth Circuit to begin their blocking maneuvers knowing that their argument, no matter how absurd, will fall on receptive ears. If Roberts won’t reign in the Ninth Circuit then Congress should limit judges who are overturned in some way.
Where was Bush appointee Roberts when Ginsburg was spewing anti-Trump stuff in media?
Clean up your own court Mr Roberts before who attack the president.
I can also understand why Roberts would want to make a public statement to vocalize his feelings.
What baffles me, though, is why he DID make such a public statement ... because what he's saying is so verifiably false that it doesn't even stand up to any scrutiny.
I’m convinced that Obama has something on Roberts and used it to blackmail him on the Obamacare case. And, whatever it is, he still has it and is STILL using it.
I agree. Didn’t think about him still using it though. If true, then Roberts should resign. Scalia said that he thought the Obama adminstration was wiring the court.
the rumor has been around quite a while why don’t the republicans have the same information?
“What baffles me, though, is why he DID make such a public statement ... because what he’s saying is so verifiably false that it doesn’t even stand up to any scrutiny.”
He’s just pi$$ing on your leg and trying to convince you it’s raining! In all my 78 years, I have never had such an introspective view of our political system thrust in front of me as Trump has done! I can remember Presidents back as far as Eisenhower (when we first got a TV), Trump has made me completely reorder my view of the Republican Party and the people it has put into the White House. BT ( before Trump) I had a completely different view than he’s dropped in my lap. And I am forced to face the reality of what America could have been for all of my life had we had men in the Presidency with the consummate will to be the cheerleader, protector, and visionary that Trump has brought to the office. When I look back on Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and the awful duo of the Booshes, and speaking locally, Pete Wilson and that sorry a$$ed excuse Ahnold Shickelgrubber, I wonder how we have survived. We had a small sample, both here and in Washington with Ronald Reagan, but for all those years, he was the only other shining example of a man who cared more for his country than he did for himself.
Maybe Roberts sees himself as the standard-bearer replacement for RBG...
nice posting job.
The judge issuing the ruling was Jon S. Tigar, of the United States District Court in San Francisco, whom Trump quickly singled out as an "Obama judge."
Son of big-time attorney Michael Tigar, a left-wing activist who's had some big name clients through the years.
We shall see. It could be that he simply couldn’t restrain himself, the President has that effect on some.
Amen to everything you said. I first voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 so maybe I was spoiled but I thought I could look forward to that kind of leadership during the rest of my lifetime. I’ve been making a nuisance of myself to the local GOPe for 20 years. I’ve told them that being a loyal voter since Reagan has only resulted in larger government, higher spending and less freedom. I’ll never vote for a Dhimmicrat, although I haven’t told them that, but when it comes down to a binary choice in the general election it always is has to be R no matter how dissapointing.
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