Posted on 11/18/2018 6:15:19 PM PST by narses
In my youth I read just about everything Heinlein wrote....
As an adult, I came to realize that Heinlein was Godless as are most sci-fi writers....which ended my fascination of SF.
This is a really good write up of an author whose works I enjoyed.
Thanks!
“Only liberals, of course, can be creative.“
You understand, that they truly believe this.
“There was a SST 3?”
Yup LOl. Jolene Blalock, the smoking hot Vulcan from Star Trek Enterprise is in it, along with original star Casper Van Diem.
The story will surprise you. Van Diem is a born again Christian so probably thats why he signed up.
They held up? Good to hear.
I have been revisiting some favorites from my youth.
The Foundation Trilogy did not hold up.
In another category, Neither did the Winds of War.
Most sci-fi writers do seem to be indifferent or even sometimes hostile to God. Despite that, some of them are still great, at least in my opinion.
R.A. Lafferty, Manly Wade Wellman, Cordwainer Smith, Walter M. Miller Jr., Gene Wolfe, John C. Wright and of course CS Lewis are some really great exceptions that incorporate their belief wonderfully into their work if you want to ever give it another shot.
Freegards
I recall Farmham’s Freehold as one of Heinlein’s teen books that I enjoyed.
I do have to give props to this person’s humorous Klansman comment.
The Foundation Trilogy went a bit further. Ultimately Asimov combined the Robot series into it.
I did not read the last book that Isaac wrote, but I have it around here somewhere.
I saw Asimov speak once at Suffolk University in Boston. He was quite affable. Funny though, he sounded foolish to me when he expressed certain notions. I was about 20 and he was likely approaching 70.
I like his books more than I liked his appearance that day.
In “Time Enough For Love”, the headlines at the beginning of the chapters sound very much like the Drudge Report.
I'd bet that is exactly the motivation.
Heinlein was a weird crazy liberal.
If you google “”Stranger in a Strange Land”, you will find a pdf (free) which is approximately twice the size of the originally published version … lots more dialog. When RAH submitted the original manuscript, the publishers were afraid it wouldn’t sell, so they required him to reduce its size significantly; RAH did so, and threw the original manuscript into the bottom of his file cabinet. When he died, his papers were given to a University. When the original manuscript was found, his wife gave permission for a pdf to be published for free. IMHO, the original was MUCH better than the published version. ENJOY
Enjoyed his early stuff, before he descended into “If it feels good, rub yourself on it” anything goes..............
How anyone can imagine him racist is an indication that that individual hasn't read him very closely - the punchline to Starship Troopers was, after all, that its protagonist wasn't white. Farnham's Freehold is a brutally revealing read for anyone captured by contemporary progressive illusions, and it challenges their conviction of who is on the "right side" of history because that's exactly what it was intended to do. If you're shocked, you just might be part of the problem.
I won't expand on his late-life peculiarities in sexual matters because they really aren't all that significant to his body of work. At most, a distraction. How he felt about human freedom, though, is far more pertinent, IMHO, and The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is a work that only improves with age. And then there is one, a juvenile novel of my childhood, Podkayne Of Mars, whose original ending was never published in his lifetime due to its intensity. You can find it in the posthumous Grumbles From The Grave. I think that the editor was mistaken, the book is far, far better with it even if it makes the kiddies cry. Highly recommended.
RAH and his "open marriage" urges were a bit much. No wonder hippies loved him.
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Glory ROad, The cat that can walk through walls, Farnhams freehold...Citizen of the galaxy.
He had to write 10,000 words to simply say that Heinlein wasn’t as “enlightened” as he is.
So true. He said it, Reagan said it, and I said it.
There's probably something wrong with people who are rigid and can't see or say it.
I stopped reading right there.
Heinlein was my favorite author, even before I was politically aware.
“The writer was already a Malthusian and a eugenicist ...”
Malthusians end eugenicists tend to be leftists.
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