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We must thin the dry under brush, clear cut fire breaks, implement prescribed burning and build those roads and bridges.

The timber companies will do that and pay us for the opportunity in many areas.

In the low hills and much of Socal, we'll have to pay folks to do it.

1 posted on 11/17/2018 4:19:04 PM PST by Mariner
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When asked if seeing the historic devastation, which stretched for miles and left neighborhoods destroyed and fields scorched, altered his opinion on climate change, Trump answered, “No.”


The global warming folks have really glommed onto these fires as evidence of global warming.

These fires happen every year, in California and other western states.

There are things we can do, to reduce the risk, and probably to improve fire fighting capabilities.

But to veer into a discussion of global warming, to deal with a threat that has been there since time immemorial, is nonsense.


2 posted on 11/17/2018 4:26:52 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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altered his opinion on climate change, Trump answered, “No.”

He is the no BS president.

3 posted on 11/17/2018 4:32:20 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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Wonder how many endangered species were killed and how many board feet lost.

I can't even comprehend the idea of human beings dying in these monstrous fires. God help us.

Revive the CCC Camps.

4 posted on 11/17/2018 4:38:32 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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Anyone venture to explain how it is that houses are burned down to their foundation, cars are burned empty shells in the streets, but the nearby trees still have their leaves.


7 posted on 11/17/2018 4:45:35 PM PST by odawg
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Widen the main escape roads. That would help with casualties.


8 posted on 11/17/2018 4:47:34 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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Reminds me of the town destroyed in RING OF FIRE (1961), before glo-bull warming was blamed on everything.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055374/


9 posted on 11/17/2018 4:48:47 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I see the leeches Brown and Newsom were there sucking up.


10 posted on 11/17/2018 4:49:17 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Trump is SO RIGHT on many things, but in this case, he’s not.

At the risk of being attacked here, I must say the following CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM of Trump:

Trump’s comment about the California fire damage being mostly due to “forest mismanagement” is mostly wrong. Forest mismanagement is probably only a fraction of the reason.

After all, there were massive California fires long before humans did “forest management” by thinning and controlled burns.

He appears ignorant about California drought and high wind situations. It seems like he’s thinking like a provincial East coaster who doesn’t know about our California fire problems because it’s usually humid and green in Eastern U.S.

Recall when he bloviated 2 years ago that “there is no drought in California???” He was actually quoting a farmer he spoke to, but the media turned it into his opinion.

He totally blew it because by all standards of drought measurement (e.g. very very low precip for many years), we had a severe drought in California. You and I knew he meant to say that the drought is a market problem as we can usually find ways to produce water, for example, desalinization, if we simply want to pay more for water. But to the average voter, he just made himself look ignorant and insensitive.

As with his campaign comment about China & Japan “stealing US Jobs,” Trump’s bellicose ignorance and poor choice of words costs him (and conservatives) many many votes. I know for sure how that played in Japan is “You Japs are thieves.” As a result of that one statement, many many Japanese (and the Japanese media) turned against Trump. Fortunately he’s won them back by his successes with North Korea.

On China, he is correct to say they are stealing our patented technologies and that’s OK to offend them. They ARE thieves. But not the Japanese.

He could have accomplished the same effect during the campaign by stating the “Japanese and Chinese are OUTCOMPETING US, so we are losing jobs to them.” That’s the same statement without the insult to Japan.

I’m hoping that Trump will mature while in office and learn from his occasional poor choice of words that really backfire on himself.

He could be so much more effective with his trademark strong words if he were just more careful with his choice of words that accomplish the same effect.

Reagan knew this well. Trump doesn’t, but there is time for him to learn.


18 posted on 11/17/2018 7:52:38 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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At the risk of sounding hypersensitive to MSM over-the-top anti-Trump bias, does this AP headline seem just a bit loaded?

As in (reference to Trump's quote): "no s**t, Sherlock" being the logical response? And the headline writer knows it?

19 posted on 11/17/2018 8:03:24 PM PST by daler
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When asked if seeing the historic devastation, which stretched for miles and left neighborhoods destroyed and fields scorched, altered his opinion on climate change, Trump answered, “No.”

Did they ask him what he thought about Gov. Jerry Brown vetoing funds for forest management and how that made the disaster happen?

20 posted on 11/17/2018 9:14:39 PM PST by roadcat
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The timber companies will do that and pay us for the opportunity in many areas.

So would chain gangs.

21 posted on 11/18/2018 5:04:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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"Suggested target locations for arson attacks, the magazine stated, “include houses and apartment buildings, forest areas adjacent to residential areas, factories that produce cars, furniture, clothing, flammable substances, etc., gas stations, hospitals, bars, dance clubs, night clubs, banks, car showrooms, schools, universities, as well as churches, Rafidi [Shiite] temples, and so forth. The options are vast, leaving no excuse for delay.”

Jihadists were advised to time their arson “preferably in the later part of night to the early hours of morning when people are generally asleep,” and instructions were offered on how to block off exits to inflict casualties. For wildfires, ISIS said to look for dry brush “as fire cannot endure in damp or wet environments.” Arsonists were encouraged to leave the mark of ISIS somewhere near the fire site with spray paint or black marker. Suggested target locations for arson attacks, the magazine stated, “include houses and apartment buildings, forest areas adjacent to residential areas, factories that produce cars, furniture, clothing, flammable substances, etc., gas stations, hospitals, bars, dance clubs, night clubs, banks, car showrooms, schools, universities, as well as churches, Rafidi [Shiite] temples, and so forth. The options are vast, leaving no excuse for delay.” https://drudgereport.com/?NF=1

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29 posted on 11/18/2018 8:31:53 AM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type)FREEPER FRIENDS! SEE MY TEXAS HX BIO PAGE!)
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B-but what about the snail darter and the gnat catcher? They’re mighty tasty roasted in their own feathers.


30 posted on 11/18/2018 3:45:58 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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They on the left have a habit of critizing Trump’s manner and neglecting to take responsibility for these kinds of horrible disasters they caused.

They had/have not enough sense to know that brush and dead trees were fodder for a fire.. or they did not care and now that whole towns have been burned to the ground and lives lost that may never be found or known for sure if they are dead .. the left environmentalists would shrug and claim it’s someone else’s fault.. not theirs.


35 posted on 11/20/2018 3:21:54 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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