Posted on 11/16/2018 2:44:55 PM PST by Jack Black
Civil division and its conquests are the true makers of America, and continue to shape its national progressor threaten its undoing. Indeed, the very founding of the United States advanced the principle of civil conflict over all others. Our very identity, from the start, was framed as triumph over the other. We cast them out, like France cruelly expelled their heretic Huguenots in the 17th century. For our part, we drove out 100,000 loyalists we once counted as blood brothers. This civil war itself lasted 20 years, from 1763 to 1783, but the ensuing cold war and residual battles with Britain did not end until 1815.
By then there was another fissure in the nation. After 1815 a new cultural migration began. Young America itself split into two opposed ways of life and two increasingly bitter political identities, which fought another 20-year conflict, from 1857 to 1877. Threats of secession and nullification dominated American politics all the way to 1896 with Plessy v. Ferguson. Only the lucky generations, from the 1930s to the 1970s, could pretend to celebrate something like national unity. Even then, such privilege was the demesne of a single, favored political majoritycompletely coterminous with the prevailing liberal establishment.
(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...
I hope not. We didn't expect Trump. Who knows who could emerge in the next 2-6 years. In the mean time it is a good time to check our supplies.
After reading the paragraph: "Both sides rush to tear down the constitutional order. Just since the 2016 election, we have witnessed a rolling thunder of Blue and Red elite rhetoricpacking the Supreme Court, abolishing the Electoral College, repealing the Second Amendment, wholesale state nullification of federal law, shackling of voter rights, and Deep State invocation of the 25th Amendment. These are all potential extremities of action that would not only dismantle our constitutional order, but also skew it to one sides juridical construct of virtue, thus dissolving any semblance of adherence to law by the other. Over time each party becomes emotionally invested in the lust to dismantle the old and make something new."
I am trying to find where the Repubs were saying or proposing to do any of the above mentioned acts.
+1
When a critical mass of conservatives are fired because of their associations with organizations labeled by the SPLC as hate groups, then and only then, will the right have nothing left to lose but to fight.
At some point all of us on FR will be linked to our screen names, FR will be labeled a hate group, and many of us will be fired because our companies don't want our sort of people working for them.
Then we will have to fight alongside The Proud Boys and the other alt-Right groups.
I admit that I am too afraid and too close to retirement to become openly antagonistic to the leftists. I speak my mind, but only among those who know me well.
The Occupy movement failed because it was too passive. All they did was block some entrances to some buildings. They basically did exactly what homeless people were already doing.
The Tea Party movement was a bit more successful as they actively supported specific candidates ... who unfortunately suffered one of three fates: unelected because viewed as too extreme, coopted by the swamp, or marginalized into meaningless committee appointments.
AntiFa and BLM are having much more success by using active violent tactics. The Black Panthers and other 60's groups had some success in advancing their agenda through violence and threats of violence, so why wouldn't we expect something like AntiFa and BLM to come about?
I don't see conservatives becoming violent. If every currently employed conservative went out on a walkout strike then that might send a message. What will most likely happen, however, is that we will be fired one-by-one and replaced by younger or immigrant workers. So our castigation will have little or no effect on the blessed economy.
So My vision is that we slowly sink into a European style quasi-socialist screw-topia. The final nail in the coffin will be the confiscation of guns which will happen despite the number of 2A stalwarts killed in standoffs with the police.
You’re right. And keep our powder dry.
Yes, hopefully someone will emerge who can and will carry on the good fight.
There’s no doubt that he’s set back the Deep State.
You make a lot of good points.
My fear is that if they are able to do so, they will selectively attack conservative’s finances.
People such as John Brennan would relish doing so. And Brennan and his ilk are not going away.
For later reference.
“A question settled by violence, or in disregard of law, must remain unsettled forever.”
“The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.”
Jefferson Davis.
Jefferson Davis was not put on trial for treason because the Government knew that a court would not find him guilty as secession was not illegal under the Constitution.
Relatively recent for some of us. My Great Grandfather fought in the WBTS and his Grandfather and Great Grandfather both fought at the battles of Kings Mountain and Guilford Courthouse during the Revolution.
“..that the animating ideology of the Left carries with it a requirement for world revolt, world transformation, world socialism, world government, world domination....”
In a nutshell: They want to use lethal, coercive force against us to either make us comply with their ways, or exterminate us entirely.
There is no coexisting with psychopaths who hate you.
So, sooner or later, that balloon will go up. We are not the ones pushing it, they are.
History is a harsh bitch of a mistress. We ignore her lessons at our own peril.
RE Guns of August:
A remarkable book.
If you haven’t read it yet, check out “The Price of Glory: Verdun 1916” by Alistair Horne.
https://www.amazon.com/Price-Glory-Verdun-1916/dp/0140170413
Woof, brother dawg.
Bkmk
Egsactly!
Over in Mississippi ; They stole our horses ,took , killed and ate all our cattle,sheep, chickens and hogs. Tore down our rail fences . Destroyed our rail lines ,burned our towns ,plantations and farms . Killed our sons and rapes some of our daughters. Invaded our states .....And they expect us to love them ? Sorry ,some memories don’t go away . And for what purpose? F um....
The Yankees and all their legions of straight off the boat German mercenary ‘immigrants’ F um . We should have killed them all. The same Yankee pricks are still screwing things up.
Woof!
Yet another book on my list of Stuff I Gotta Read.
Secession wasn’t expressly unlawful but insurrection was and he should have hanged for it.
Now you’re describing the confederates.
” How about we try Article V first since it was made specifically to restore freedom without having to shoot anybody.”
Works for me. But, what if it doesn’t garner the requisite number of votes?
You mean the side of big gubmint and centralized control. That side? Hows that working out for you.
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