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Many dead as trenchcoat-wearing gunman storms 'student night' at country bar and shoots at least 11
https://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 8 November 2018 | Connor Boyd

Posted on 11/08/2018 3:02:08 AM PST by Enterprise

A gunman has opened fire at a country music bar during a student night in the city of Thousand Oaks, California, injuring at least 11 people and killing several.

The shooter stormed the Borderline Bar and Grill wearing a black trenchcoat armed with a pistol equipped with an extended magazine and smoke grenades and began targeting people as young as 18.

Among the victims was a Ventura County deputy sheriff and a doorman - as well as a cashier and college students. The lifeless body of a suspected male victim was seen outside of the venue.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
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To: lastchance

With new info it looks like a Marine with PTSD on psychotropic drugs. Everyone of these mass shootings has been psychotropic drugs. It is seriously time to sue the drug companies as the cause of all these events...


101 posted on 11/08/2018 7:23:56 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

It sure bears the FDA doing a black box warning on such drugs when prescribed to males between the ages of 15 and 35.


102 posted on 11/08/2018 7:38:38 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Openurmind

One class of drugs which seem to show real promise for treating PTSD is psychedelics such as LSD. You can bet that will never get approved.


103 posted on 11/08/2018 8:02:24 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

Trust me as a personal witness that it is not only men of certain age... We have had direct experience with this prescription drug reality with our own Daughter who is a married model very productive citizen and mother of five. It has gotten pretty scary and right on the edge a few times now since she was prescribed these “medications”.

We have seen what these drugs can do to a perfectly sane productive person who was “feeling a little down” at one point in her life because of work related stress. She trusted her doctor when she should have refused this “cure”. No going back now, once you start taking them it is even worse to try and quit.

The drugs will not let you quit, events like this is what happens if you run out or quit taking them.


104 posted on 11/08/2018 8:08:32 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: boxlunch
"It’s what ‘ve been saying for years. I love what Trump has accomplished, but it is no more than putting temporary brakes on the downhill slide if we dont figure out how to break the stranglehold that the MSM, social media, public schools and universities have on the truth. Very few people have the time to read and dig for the real news, or learn real history. They wouldn’t even know where to find it if they wanted it. And they are indoctrinated to have little interest in it or use the free time they have to seek it out. I have hopes for Trump accomplishing some of his agenda, but it’s still like treating cancer with an aspirin. If we don't figure out a solution to those two issues, we as a nation wont survive much past the end of his second term.

____________

So well said.

It looks like we are past the point of no return.

I had about a dozen old pine tree 30 or so years ago. They had the borers down their stem. A few of them, I cut below where I believed they were and often it was correct.

But we lost a few others.

I think this country's good days are waaaaay in the past. The latest generations are unalterably ignorant and the decades of illegal immigrants have also helped to murder this nation.

Very, very sorry to say.

105 posted on 11/08/2018 8:09:13 AM PST by a little elbow grease (duct tape and cable ties hold more worth than pussy hats andYOI! resistance)
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To: Openurmind

I am sorry for what you and your daughter must have suffered because of her “treatment”. I agree these drugs are dangerous and are prescribed to freely. I know the withdrawal symptoms are hellish even if you go off them gradually. I just am not sure if a wholesale ban is the answer. I do think that drug companies are not looking for an alternative with any urgency. The perception being that these drugs are the answer.


106 posted on 11/08/2018 8:25:19 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

“I do think that drug companies are not looking for an alternative with any urgency. The perception being that these drugs are the answer.”

Exactly the problem along with the fact that the problems are not being recognized or addressed by the FDA.

While FDA recommends a trend towards not prescribing simple antibiotics because of possible resistance, allowing people to end up in the hospital almost dead from being poisoned from a bad tooth, They refuse to address these very real proven serious side effects of these mind altering drugs.

It really is a “good old boy” criminal conspiracy for profits. Someone is being paid off to turn their head on this one and ignore it when they should be personally held accountable for allowing all these events to happen as a side effect of these drugs.


107 posted on 11/08/2018 8:42:57 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: dp0622

Sheep don’t have much in the way of defense mechanisms either


108 posted on 11/08/2018 9:57:11 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: nobamanomore

lol


109 posted on 11/08/2018 9:58:00 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Well sub machine guns are possible with the drug cartels.

They have that and some heavy machine guns in places in Mexico.

You won’t simply walk across the border with a Heavy Machine Gun. That sound is very different from a MAC.


110 posted on 11/08/2018 10:44:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: AAABEST

I’m Lutheran. ;-D


111 posted on 11/08/2018 4:59:44 PM PST by GingisK
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