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Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say
New York Times ^

Posted on 10/23/2018 1:28:56 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say

By Denise Grady

Oct. 22, 2018

Defining gender as a condition determined strictly by a person’s genitals is based on a notion that doctors and scientists abandoned long ago as oversimplified and often medically meaningless.

Researchers who have studied gender issues and provided health care to people who do not fit the typical M/F pigeonholes said that the Trump administration’s latest plan to define gender goes beyond the limits of scientific knowledge.

“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer, an endocrinologist and executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York. He is also president of the United States Professional Association of Transgender Health.

But exactly what does determine gender identity — a person’s powerful, core knowledge of who they are — is not so clear.

“We know that there is a significant, durable biological underpinning to gender identity,” Dr. Safer said. “What we don’t know are all of the biological factors at play that explain gender identity. As far as we in the mainstream biological-medical community understand it in 2018, it is hard-wired, it is biological, it is not entirely hormonal, and we do not have identified genes, so we cannot specifically say it is genetic.”

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To: Sub-Driver

I’m an expert too..is spotting bullsh8t “experts”..


41 posted on 10/23/2018 1:38:39 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Fungi

+1


42 posted on 10/23/2018 1:38:42 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sub-Driver

The NYT has become medically meaningless.
Q: Do you go to a Dr for childbirth and pick a Dr who can’t tell your gender?
A: No

Q: Do you get your news from a source who makes things up depending on how they feel at the moment?
A: Same No.


43 posted on 10/23/2018 1:39:39 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Sub-Driver

Just love me possession of an MD or PhD doesn’t determine intelligence.


44 posted on 10/23/2018 1:40:02 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Steely Tom

I swear. As soon as it says “and experts say”.... pure garbage... It’s like the robocalls that say “don’t hang up!”


45 posted on 10/23/2018 1:41:03 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Rad_J

Exactly.

People can change their appearance but their sex genetic markers remain unaltered.

The notion gender identity is fluid is just stupid but nothing about liberalism is born out there of rational acquaintance with the world.

Facts are stubborn things.


46 posted on 10/23/2018 1:41:31 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver
“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer, an endocrinologist and executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York.

It is scary to think someone this stupid actually obtained a medical degree.
47 posted on 10/23/2018 1:41:50 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Sub-Driver

I love this one “gender goes beyond the limits of scientific knowledge”


49 posted on 10/23/2018 1:42:25 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Sub-Driver

This “expert” makes a living off of trannys. Small wonder he would support the “science”.


50 posted on 10/23/2018 1:42:36 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is gonna be a great thread.


51 posted on 10/23/2018 1:42:40 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Sub-Driver

NYT’s expert...sells dirty water dogs
in central park between 10AM-4PM


52 posted on 10/23/2018 1:42:41 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Sub-Driver

Gender is based on the ability to parallel park.


53 posted on 10/23/2018 1:42:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Sub-Driver

Gee.

I woulda flunked Bio 101 when I took it if I said that.

Where’d this guy buy his MD? K-Mart?


54 posted on 10/23/2018 1:43:40 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Sub-Driver

Good God! This is an expert from our “higher education” via K-12????

Friggin’ moron comes to mind as an accurate description!


55 posted on 10/23/2018 1:43:45 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Disarming Liberals...Real Common Sense Gun Control!)
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To: jonno

They’re coming to take him away, ha ha, hee hee, ho ho . . .


56 posted on 10/23/2018 1:43:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Sub-Driver

57 posted on 10/23/2018 1:44:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Sub-Driver
Researchers who have studied gender issues and provided health care to people who do not fit the typical M/F pigeonholes said

Basically transgender activists, then. Got it.

58 posted on 10/23/2018 1:44:06 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: yesthatjallen
The “experts” are wrong.

Well do YOU hold a prestigious position at The Jackian Center for Beanstalk Studies?

Yeah, didn’t think so.

59 posted on 10/23/2018 1:44:24 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: papertyger
you can’t “pigeon hole” a person’s sex...

Or when they enjoy white-male privilege [which is, near as I can tell, having to engage in remunerative work from the time you are 16 or so].

60 posted on 10/23/2018 1:45:58 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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