Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say

New York Times ^

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Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say

By Denise Grady

Oct. 22, 2018

Defining gender as a condition determined strictly by a person’s genitals is based on a notion that doctors and scientists abandoned long ago as oversimplified and often medically meaningless.

Researchers who have studied gender issues and provided health care to people who do not fit the typical M/F pigeonholes said that the Trump administration’s latest plan to define gender goes beyond the limits of scientific knowledge.

“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer, an endocrinologist and executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York. He is also president of the United States Professional Association of Transgender Health.

But exactly what does determine gender identity — a person’s powerful, core knowledge of who they are — is not so clear.

“We know that there is a significant, durable biological underpinning to gender identity,” Dr. Safer said. “What we don’t know are all of the biological factors at play that explain gender identity. As far as we in the mainstream biological-medical community understand it in 2018, it is hard-wired, it is biological, it is not entirely hormonal, and we do not have identified genes, so we cannot specifically say it is genetic.”

[goldstategop]

Gender is subjective or so liberal transgenderists would like to have us believe.

[DesertRhino]

They are completely correct. The gender of a word depends upon the language, and sometimes the usage.

[SpinyNorman]

God! Do liberals hold ANYTHING sacred? Aren’t they the ones harping about Republicans being “antiscience” and all?

[LukeL]

There are also conditions where people are insensitive to sex hormones so they never sexually mature. However all these conditions have a clear genetic component and are based on hard physical evidence.

This is why a person can have a clear set of physical symptoms and any competent doctor will arrive at the same diagnosis. However go to 10 therapists with some mental symptoms and you will get a different dx every time.

[yesthatjallen]

The “experts” are wrong.

[Red Badger]

God disagrees............

Genesis 1:27 NIV

So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

Genesis 5:2
He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind” when they were created.

[blueplum]

an expert who’s livelihood relies on chopping off parts isn’t exactly an unbiased scientific source. “ Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery” at Mount Sinai Health System in New York.

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“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer

Hmmm... a doctor, that must means he has no social agenda to push and speaks only the truth.

executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York. He is also president of the United States Professional Association of Transgender Health.

Nevermind.

[SoFloFreeper]

xx=female

xy=male

Period. Full stop. End of story.

[Menehune56]

Classic “appeal to authority” propaganda, but expected from the “newspaper of record.”

[IronJack]

No, but BIOLOGY does. XY = male. XX = female. “Gender” is a madeup term. Let’s talk about sex, baby.

[Baynative]

"Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say"

I'm glad I was born back when it did.

[Steely Tom]

LOL, oh ok, there are “official experts” in this area.

Yeah, "official experts" are there to say the opposite of what every human being knows from babyhood.

If all they did was say what everyone knows, they wouldn't sound like "experts," and no one would care what they said or pay attention to them.

[goldstategop]

This is actually fiction - as is virtually everything else printed in the failing NYT.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

And they have the nerve to call us science deniers.

[hinckley buzzard]

Correct. “Gender” as it is used these days is a political concept and has nothing to do with sex or biology. Nor does it have anything “hardwired” about it. That is a false-hood perpetrated by unethical political operatives under cover of medical credentials.

The fact is, “gender” as these charlatans use it represents a fluid set of ideas and feelings and attitudes which can and do fluctuate radically over time, representing dysfunctional development.

[outofsalt]

"What about the guy who is convinced he is Napoleon?

Viva le' Farce!

[KosmicKitty]

But DNA does. You can lop off all the parts you want, but ou can’t change your DNA. Just saying.

[Quality_Not_Quantity]

gender identity — a person’s powerful, core knowledge of who they are

I think (I'm a _______), therefore I am.

[sphinx]

“What we don’t know are all of the biological factors at play that explain gender identity. As far as we in the mainstream biological-medical community understand it in 2018, it is hard-wired, it is biological, it is not entirely hormonal, and we do not have identified genes, so we cannot specifically say it is genetic.”

I await the doctor's explanation of how X and Y chromosomes are not genetic.