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Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say
New York Times ^

Posted on 10/23/2018 1:28:56 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say

By Denise Grady

Oct. 22, 2018

Defining gender as a condition determined strictly by a person’s genitals is based on a notion that doctors and scientists abandoned long ago as oversimplified and often medically meaningless.

Researchers who have studied gender issues and provided health care to people who do not fit the typical M/F pigeonholes said that the Trump administration’s latest plan to define gender goes beyond the limits of scientific knowledge.

“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer, an endocrinologist and executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York. He is also president of the United States Professional Association of Transgender Health.

But exactly what does determine gender identity — a person’s powerful, core knowledge of who they are — is not so clear.

“We know that there is a significant, durable biological underpinning to gender identity,” Dr. Safer said. “What we don’t know are all of the biological factors at play that explain gender identity. As far as we in the mainstream biological-medical community understand it in 2018, it is hard-wired, it is biological, it is not entirely hormonal, and we do not have identified genes, so we cannot specifically say it is genetic.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakenews; gender; homoerotica; homosexualagenda; insanity; mentalillness; nastymedia; nyslimesfakenews; obscenity; queerporn; transgender; whiskeytangofoxtrot; xx; xy
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Who pays this nut job?
1 posted on 10/23/2018 1:28:56 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, since an “expert” says it, it must be true. /sarc


2 posted on 10/23/2018 1:30:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the DemocRats are all cats.)
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To: Sub-Driver

You mean having a bajingo doesn’t make you a woman and having a wiener doesn’t make you a man? Who’s have thunk it?


3 posted on 10/23/2018 1:31:03 PM PDT by LottieDah (u)
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To: Sub-Driver

In other news....up is down.


4 posted on 10/23/2018 1:31:06 PM PDT by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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Who pays this nut job?

I see what you did there.

5 posted on 10/23/2018 1:31:18 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (If I had a dollar for every gender, I'd have two dollars. And a bunch of counterfeit ones.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Gender” is a bogus term. A person has a sex, male or female. (With the caveat that there is a very rare condition where some people are born with some of the genitals of both sexes.)


6 posted on 10/23/2018 1:31:33 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: Sub-Driver

Silly me. More of that socially determined gender crap.

Then again, liberals flout biology and common sense.

To make our society as deranged as them.


7 posted on 10/23/2018 1:32:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah - that’s total BS.

Yes Virginia, hermaphrodites exist but that doesn’t change the fact that 99% of the population has either ovaries that produce eggs or prostates that produce sperm and the proper organs for each.

You can claim that a man with silicone implants is a woman and give people ink jet’d certificates that claim they’re an authority that means that but it won’t change the reality that it’s still a man in sheep’s clothing


8 posted on 10/23/2018 1:33:06 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: Sub-Driver

This experts letters do not determine words.


9 posted on 10/23/2018 1:33:14 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Sub-Driver

“Experts” who make their livings pandering to mentally ill people are not trustworthy sources of insight into potential errors in human understanding going back thousands of years.


10 posted on 10/23/2018 1:33:16 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Sub-Driver

What about the guy who is convinced he is Napoleon?

Do we have to respect his choice?


11 posted on 10/23/2018 1:33:27 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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“experts say”

LOL, oh ok, there are “official experts” in this area.

Good grief...


12 posted on 10/23/2018 1:33:31 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Sub-Driver

Talk about yer fake news...


13 posted on 10/23/2018 1:34:42 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Sub-Driver

‘long ago’ ? and how long ago would that be? 8 years? 10 years? Male and Female have been around for millions of years.


14 posted on 10/23/2018 1:34:53 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Sub-Driver

If anatomy has nothing to do with gender then why is gender reassignment surgery done on the anatomy? Shouldn’t gender reassignment surgery be brain surgery then?


15 posted on 10/23/2018 1:35:08 PM PDT by Rad_J
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To: jonno

I think my urine is lemonade. Therefore, it is.


16 posted on 10/23/2018 1:35:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Anti-Science quackery.


17 posted on 10/23/2018 1:35:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Sub-Driver
We are here: “If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, How Shall We Then Live? (Old Tappan NJ: Fleming H Revell Company, 1976), p. 224.
18 posted on 10/23/2018 1:35:32 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Sub-Driver

Is this satire? Didn’t see a satire tag but it almost has to be. This level of stupidity can’t be real.


19 posted on 10/23/2018 1:35:34 PM PDT by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Funny how you can’t “pigeon hole” a person’s sex, but they sure can determine you’re a bigot, homophobe, nazi, rapist....


20 posted on 10/23/2018 1:35:35 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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