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The Elizabeth Warren Fiasco
NYTimes ^ | Ross Douthat

Posted on 10/17/2018 4:15:01 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

A lot of smart people believe that Elizabeth Warren, the senator from Massachusetts, is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination in 2020. A recent New York magazine profile by Jonathan Chait claimed that she’s winning the invisible primary — building campaign networks, rolling out policy proposals, wooing insiders, intimidating rivals.

*snip*

I am not a Democratic insider or a campaign professional, so for all I know Warren may indeed be impressing her intended audience.

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But running for president in the age of Donald Trump requires, above all, an ability to handle what John Heileman and Mark Halperin once called “the freak show” (back when it was considerably less freaky). It requires a deftness dealing with scandals and gaffes and accidental blunders, an ability to know when you have a wrestling move that justifies getting down in the mud and when you’re better off sitting on a top rail and acting superior to the pigs.

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[W]hat Warren should have done when the story resurfaced, what she obviously should have done, was to simply express mild regret for letting her enthusiasm for family lore carry her away into identifying as someone who might possibly receive affirmative-action consideration, apologize to Cherokee groups for any offense, and literally never speak of the matter again. And if and when Donald Trump started up his Pocahontas jibes, she should have simply ignored him and talked about the many issues where he’s on the wrong side of public opinion.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: elizabethwarren; warren
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1 posted on 10/17/2018 4:15:01 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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"A lot of smart people believe that Elizabeth Warren, the senator from Massachusetts, is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination in 2020."

Sorry, couldn't possibly read an entire article that starts out with such a stupid premise...

2 posted on 10/17/2018 4:19:01 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Hey - what happened to my clever tag line?)
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To: RoosterRedux

...a lot of “smart” people thought
Hildabeast was presidential material too....eyep 100% sure


3 posted on 10/17/2018 4:19:26 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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4 posted on 10/17/2018 4:19:36 AM PDT by Geronimo (God Bless America and President Donald J. Trump...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Front runner already crippled by Trump before getting to starting blocks.


5 posted on 10/17/2018 4:20:21 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: RoosterRedux

I sense she’s a Patsy Schroeder for our time.


6 posted on 10/17/2018 4:23:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: RoosterRedux
she should have simply ignored him and talked about the many issues where he’s on the wrong side of public opinion.

Glad to see the NY Slimes, being their normal, objective selves. /S

7 posted on 10/17/2018 4:24:02 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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From the article:

But running for president in the age of Donald Trump requires, above all, an ability to handle what John Heileman and Mark Halperin once called “the freak show” (back when it was considerably less freaky). It requires a deftness dealing with scandals and gaffes and accidental blunders, an ability to know when you have a wrestling move that justifies getting down in the mud and when you’re better off sitting on a top rail and acting superior to the pigs.

So far Warren’s main encounter with the freak show has involved her claim to Cherokee ancestry, which was an issue in her last Senate campaign, in 2012, before Trump started in with his nicknaming. And from her initial response to the story through the new DNA test “rebuttal” to the president, she has demonstrated a conspicuous lack of political common sense.

8 posted on 10/17/2018 4:24:06 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: RoosterRedux

The author repeats the lie the test proved “some” Native American ancestry. No Native American DNA was involved in the test. The researcher used proxies for Native American blood.

One can hope Linsday Graham’s test will show he has real Native American DNA and more than the researcher projected for Ms. Warren. If so, Trump will be able to once again flog this potential Dem 2020 opponent.


9 posted on 10/17/2018 4:24:21 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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So out of curiosity who do you think is the front runner?
(I agree that Warren seems unlikely at best)


10 posted on 10/17/2018 4:24:34 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Maxine Waters for House Minority Leader!!)
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To: Raycpa

She brought in upon herself. Back in 2012, Cherokee leaders criticized her for claims about her heredity. How does a dem not know that it’s not a good thing to trivialize tribal connections.


11 posted on 10/17/2018 4:24:53 AM PDT by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: miss marmelstein

I stopped reading after first sentence about smart people.


12 posted on 10/17/2018 4:25:00 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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Warren is demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that she lacks the judgment to be President.

This Warren mess also sends a message to other potential Presidential contenders that the 2020 election is going to be rawer and rougher than a Wrestlemania match.

13 posted on 10/17/2018 4:25:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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A lot of smart people believe that Elizabeth Warren, the senator from Massachusetts, is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination in 2020.

I doubt that. Joe Biden, followed by Kamala Harris, then Bernie Sanders and maybe Gavin Newsome.

Given the extremism of the Democrats these days, odds are Harris wins the nomination.
14 posted on 10/17/2018 4:25:45 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: RoosterRedux

The OP is generally right on, but gets the results wrong.

The new info arsing from the DNA test is that it only proves fauxahantas has LATINO heritage, not Cherokee nor ANY North American Indian tribe.

If she thinks this will die down, it might for the moment. But if she thinks she has a shot at POTUS, this was her howard dean scream moment. It is now part of political lore.


15 posted on 10/17/2018 4:26:39 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Always believe women except: clinton rape, ellison assault, booker groping, ted kennedy murder)
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To: RoosterRedux

What’s the Cherokee word for “crazy lady”?


16 posted on 10/17/2018 4:28:07 AM PDT by equaviator
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<><> a 1996 piece in Fordham Law Review celebrated Warren as Harvard Law School’s “first woman of color.”

<><> Harvard's 1999 Affirmative Action Plan Book appears to identify Warren as N/A, not by name, but it could not possibly be anyone else.

The latter document is important b/c:
(A) Harvard is considered a federal contractor,
(B) its employment practices fall under the Dept of Labor’s Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP).
(C) the compliance program “requires “ a contractor, to discover barriers to equal employment opportunity.

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WIKI---OFCCP administers and enforces three legal authorities that require equal employment opportunity:

<><> Executive Order 11246, as amended;

<><> Section 503 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended; and.

<><> the Vietnam Era Veterans' Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974, as amended, 38 U.S.C. 4212.

These authorities prohibit Federal contractors and subcontractors from discriminating on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, and protected veteran status. They also require Federal contractors and subcontractors to take affirmative action to ensure equal employment opportunity in their employment processes. Its regulations can be found at CFR Title 41 Chapter 60: Public Contracts and Property Management.

17 posted on 10/17/2018 4:29:42 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: RoosterRedux

DISMANTLE CFPB.


18 posted on 10/17/2018 4:30:53 AM PDT by PGalt
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I like the part where Douthat declares Warren, “Possibly somewhat more Indian than one-1,024th Cherokee (or some other mix of tribes).” That is pretty funny, though I think he meant it to be serious.


19 posted on 10/17/2018 4:31:01 AM PDT by keat
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To: miss marmelstein; Secret Agent Man; 2ndDivisionVet
I sense she’s a Patsy Schroeder for our time.

Patsy Schroeder and Jane Fonda, share one thing in common. Both are BITTERLY hated by veterans. There is nothing either one could EVER do, to redeem themselves to us.

20 posted on 10/17/2018 4:32:04 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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