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The third chapter of Donald Yates’ history of the Cherokee (Old World Roots of the Cherokee, McFarland 2012) contains the genetic story of the Cherokee Indians based on DNA Consultants’ 2009 study “Anomalous Mitochondrial DNA in the Cherokee,” but it is no easy read, being written for an academic audience.
Earlier this year Yates published a condensation of his work in the series Cherokee Chapbooks, called Old Souls in a New World: The Secret History of the Cherokee Indians (Panther’s Lodge). This publication has no footnotes, bibliography or pictures; those must be sought in Old World Roots and scholarly articles Yates has written over the years. But the new chapbook is affordable, quick to read and no less groundbreaking and authentic in its research.
Here, from Old Souls in a New World, is the amazing story of Elvis Presley’s DNA, Indian traders and their Cherokee brides on the Southeastern frontier, haplogroup X, Egyptian T, Berber U, Jewish J and the personal stories of a selection from the fifty-two subjects who blew the lid off Native American studies with their proof of ancient Middle Eastern and Jewish lineages.
(Excerpt) Read more at ancientamerica.com ...
As a genealogist, I know the European match is pretty accurate. I have run into no black ancestry, though I am fascinated by the result and would find it exciting to find black ancestry in my tree. I also know I have native American on both my Dad and mother's sides. Mom shows NO native American. Dad shows the trace amount. I believe we are Eastern Cherokee and heavily admixed at that. Because those who stayed east of the Mississippi tended to assimilate into white society, I doubt that I will ever find precisely who was the Cherokee, but looking at pictures coupled with place data, I can surmise which generation it comes in on in at least a few cases.
Elizabeth Warren's "Native American" DNA shows exactly little to NOTHING. It certainly doesn't corroborate her tale. In fact, in invalidates some of her chief claims and solidifies she is indeed a Fauxcahontas.
Have you ever seen any proof that one service was bogusing the results?
Many cherokees were mixed by the first half of the 19th century. John Ross, chief during the trail of tears, was 1/8 native by blood.
If her “Cherokee” DNA is from 6 to 10 generations ago, that would be one ancestor 150 to 200 years ago.
That’s a very week reed to hang her ethnicity upon!
“DNA testing”
Whatta scam.
You would do better to trace your own family tree. I’ve managed to trace mine back 3 generations - to Germany.
Cannot go further than that as the area “suffered form an abundance of fire bombing” during WWII. No records to research. (shrug) my Great-Grandfather was gone long before that...like 1875.
The ads would have you believe they can tell you who your G-G-Ggranpa was, where he lived, etc, etc.
As I said, whatta load.
What happens to your “African genes” on 23 and me when you dial
the sensitivity up to 80% from 50%?
EXACTLY!!
10’s of millions of current day Americans have that much Indian DNA if accurately tested.
Lieawatha Gabe us access to a report that says only with surety that she is greater than 95% European. The gobbledygook about string length of the so called native dna doesn’t even tell us what likely tribe or whether it’s a significant length
Depends on which Haplo group is being presented from the native American linage. There have been very ancient neolithic native American haplogroups found in the caucus mountain area of Asia. So it was the origin, or it was revisited later by someone from the new world a loooong time ago.
That was 23andMe. They are backed by Google so finding articles about it are difficult.
I agree. Working on my tree and validating sources; I see no reason for one of these DNA tests.
I had the same suspicion that that 23 and Me had inserted some bogus diversity nonsense into my profile. It was mostly British Isles, some Scandinavian, some small bit Sami, some Southern Mediterranean, and .01% sub-sharan African. I attempted all the following weekend to get in touch with my African .01%, until my wife got tired of my telling her “Git yo skinny white ass in da car, bitch”.
And the vapid courage one receives from only a 3% African ancestry as opposed to the wimpy 58% northern European lineage gives one that extra courage to face the world as a minority!
Using simple math and going back just a few generations we are ALL related. Two raised to the 36th power (About 910 years or AD 1108) is one hell of a big number.68,719,476,736..60 billion more than the earths present population. Don't kid yourself. Not all exploring sailors were gay. Some liked to spread it around.And they DID!
A fact Hitler and the Master Racists happily ignore.
The ability of Google people to Orwellianly “disappear” history from the Internet is truly frightening. Christine Ford apparenlty had some significant help with that.
About a decade ago, I gave up trying to document our family’s supposed Cherokee lineage.
A cousin, who is avoided and/or ignored by most of us, due to his well earned nickname, the Family Rectum. Told me that I was wasting my time trying to document a bloodline/tribe/group of people which probably didn’t/never existed. The Rectum is a genius, has 3 PHd’s and is like a Kray computer. For once I listened to him.
Recently publicized data/books cited below show the “Recturm” may have been correct:
Old Souls in a New World: The Secret History of the Cherokee Indians (Cherokee Chapbooks # 7) Amazon and this write up is about the real story on Kindle about the so called Cherokee race.
What if the history of America’s largest Indian nation is actually a polite modern fiction, one invented by “anthropologists and other friends”? In this sweeping revisionist study of the Cherokee Indians, a scholar trained in classical philology and the new science of genetics discloses the inside story of his tribe. Combining evidence from historical records, esoteric sources like the Keetoowah and Shalokee Warrior Society, archeology, linguistics, religion, myth, sports and music, and DNA, this first new take on the subject in a hundred years guides the reader, ever so surely, into the secret annals of the Eshelokee, whose true name and origins have remained hidden until now. The narrative starts in the third century BCE and concludes with the Cherokees’ removal to Indian Territory in the nineteenth century, when all standard histories just begin.
The ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Jews, Romans and Phoenicians have long departed from the world stage. The Cherokee remain after more than two thousand years and are their heirs.
Below is a very technical and serious article on Cherokee DNA or lack of it.
http://ancientamerica.com/anomalous-dna-in-the-cherokee/ ^ | July 18, 2014
PS: A sibling gave me an Ancestor.com DNA kit and a new subscription to the Ancestor.com site early this year. Since then, my over 11,000 documented ancestors and my DNA has failed to document a single Cherokee ancestor.
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That was a prank story from a prank website. It didn't happen.
https://isogg.org/wiki/How_long_is_a_generation%3F_Science_provides_an_answer
“At the usually accepted value of four generations per century, ten generations would place the common ancestor only 250 years in the past, in the mid-18th century, suggesting a further search in records of that period for evidence pointing toward the relationship. However, the longer three-generation per century interval indicated by the recent research would place the common ancestor in the late 1600s, with a much reduced chance of finding further documentary evidence bearing on the relationship.”
I believe you have to be 1/16th to get tribal recognition.
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