Posted on 10/12/2018 7:13:42 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
President Trump praised Confederate Geader Robert E. Lee as "a great general" on Friday during a campaign rally in Lebanon, Ohio.
"So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn’t beat Robert E. Lee," Trump said before launching into a monologue about Lee, Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant.
"He was going crazy. I don’t know if you know this story. But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, 'I can’t beat Robert E. Lee,'" Trump said.
"And he had all of his generals, they looked great, they were the top of their class at West Point. They were the greatest people. There’s only one problem — they didn’t know how the hell to win. They didn’t know how to fight. They didn’t know how," he continued.
Trump went on to say, multiple times, that Grant had a drinking problem, saying that the former president "knocked the hell out of everyone" as a Union general.
"Man was he a good general. And he’s finally being recognized as a great general," Trump added.
— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 13, 2018 Trump has drawn criticism for his defense of Confederate statues, including those of Robert E. Lee.
He drew widespread condemnation last year following a deadly rally in Charlottesville, Va., saying that white nationalist protesters were there to oppose the removal of a "very, very important" statue.
"They were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee,” Trump said at the time. “This week it's Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson is coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week and is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?”
Trump, speaking at another rally in Ohio last year, said that he can be one of the “most presidential” presidents to hold office. "…With the exception of the late, great Abraham Lincoln, I can be more presidential than any president that’s ever held this office,” he said to a crowd in Youngstown.
A lie often repeated by DiogenesLamp and fully exposed, most recently in my post #433 above, which of course DiogenesLamp refused to even read, much less respond to.
Should read "my post #410 above"
Worth noting again that of the seven justices who voted for the Dred Scott decision in 1857, all but two were replaced during Lincoln's administration and those last two were replaced by President Grant.
So Democrat rule over the Supreme Court took some years to end, but eventually it did happen.
Crazy Roger Taney died in office, in October, 1864.
By your own repeated statements, you've shown that you refuse to consider any facts which contradict your own historical fantasies.
Facts such as those posted in #410 above
On May 6, 1861 Confederates formally declared war on the United States.
The first listed battle was relatively minor -- May 18, 1861 Confederate shore batteries in what was still officially Union Virginia fired on Union blockade gunboats in the Chesapeake Bay, near Norfolk.
Inconclusive results, total casualties listed as 10.
The first land battle was in Union West Virginia, at Philippi, June 3, 1861, a Union victory, about 30 total casualties.
A week later a Confederate victory at Big Bethel, VA (now officially Confederate) with ~84 total casualties.
And the following week in Union Boonville, Missouri, a Union victory with ~82 casualties.
In all of 1861 there were 35 listed battles, 25 in Union states & territories, 10 in Confederate states.
Of the roughly 15,000 total casualties in 1861 over half fell in the Union, for Confederates it was nearly 60%.
Total nonsense, which by now DiogenesLamp full-well knows but refuses to acknowledge, preferring his own fantasies.
In fact the Doubleday/Fox/Lincoln plan was to keep all the large ships well out of Confederate range off shore, then at night use small boats to take supplies to Fort Sumter.
Lincoln's "use of force" orders only referred to possible Confederate boats interfering with Lincoln's resupply boats.
Lincoln's plan did not work only because seas were at first too rough for small boats and then Maj. Anderson surrendered before seas calmed down.
But the truth doesn't fit DiogenesLamp's fantasy narrative, so he ignores it.
Habeas Corpus was not ruled on by the US Supreme Court, only by crazy Roger Taney in is role as a Maryland district judge.
Lincoln chose to ignore crazy Roger's opinion and Congress then authorized Lincoln's actions.
Of course our pro-Confederates like to point to crazy Roger's ruling and say, "see, see, see, Lincoln was unconstitutional, the beast!"
But they totally ignore any & all rulings & laws which went the other way.
I would suggest that the fact they didn't require obedience to Article 4, section 2, and that they didn't require due process for all those seizures is pretty good evidence.
You must have grown up with different ideas about conservatism than did I. From most of the reading I have done, and for most conservatives of which I have known, judicial activism was always seen as an abuse of power.
Abortion was a big example, and I know of no conservatives that believe this was a correct legal decision.
The claim that anyone with power decides what is right is one which I absolutely reject. They may decide what will happen, but this only means they have power, it doesn't make them right.
None of that makes any sense unless you see it for what it really was: a fight to preserve the Union as Founded & defined in the Constitution.
Most Republicans did not support Corwin, but enough did to pass it with nearly all Democrats voting in favor and Democrat President Buchanan (not Lincoln) signing it.
I won't entertain that idea.
And this is the court that people don't think is a rubber stamp?
You put “Pearl Harbor” into your message, I won’t read it. I don’t care what else you’ve put in there, the word’s “Pearl Harbor” discredit the entire thing in my opinion.
"Due process" as defined by Congress is considerably different (abbreviated) during wartime regarding enemy combatants than with normal civilians in peacetime.
And what part of the North is Norfolk in?
The first land battle was in Union West Virginia, at Philippi, June 3, 1861, a Union victory, about 30 total casualties.
And when did West Virginia become a State of the Union?
Total nonsense, which by now DiogenesLamp full-well knows but refuses to acknowledge, preferring his own fantasies.
Funny. Lieutenant Porter wrote in his memoirs the exact thing I said. He wrote that those ships would have been torn to pieces and every one sunk.
I think Abner Doubleday also said they would have been wiped out.
Lincoln's "use of force" orders only referred to possible Confederate boats interfering with Lincoln's resupply boats.
I believe the orders referred to "resisted in any way."
So what were the warships going to do, wave flags at them? What is the point of warships being sent if warships are not going to do anything warry?
I very much believe Lincoln ignored any authority with which he disagreed. It is clear in his actions.
But they totally ignore any & all rulings & laws which went the other way.
Why pay attention to rubber stamps? I can read the constitution with my own eyes, and I can see how he violated it in numerous ways. I don't need a court to blow smoke up my @$$.
Well if it's so important to strengthen slavery at the beginning of the war, so as to preserve it as founded, then why was it okay to ignore article 4, section 2, later?
Most Republicans did not support Corwin, but enough did to pass it with nearly all Democrats voting in favor and Democrat President Buchanan (not Lincoln) signing it.
Well this is what Lincoln had to say about it at his inaugural speech.
I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution—which amendment, however, I have not seen—has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service ... holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.
Now you are going to tell me that this means that he was adamantly against it, and people are just interpreting his words incorrectly, and really it was all about Pearl Harbor or something, and "Look! Squirrel!"
"Due Process" means a hearing in court. It doesn't have another meaning that congress can tamper with.
Oh goody! Now do Washington! :)
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