Posted on 10/09/2018 6:55:01 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
The two candidates for governor of California — Gavin Newsom, the Democratic lieutenant governor, and John Cox, a Republican business executive — met on Monday for their one and only scheduled debate of the campaign. (We will take what we can get.) Here are a few things we learned from their civil 60-minute session moderated by the journalist Scott Shafer on KQED, a public radio station in San Francisco.
It’s rare that you have two candidates who disagree so completely on so many things. On sanctuary cities (Mr. Cox opposes, Mr. Newsom is a yes); the gas tax (Mr. Newsom supports, Mr. Cox wants it repealed); on becoming a zero carbon emissions state (Mr. Newsom supports, Mr. Cox opposes); and on stricter gun control laws (Mr. Cox no, Mr. Newsom yes).
It took 43 minutes before these two words — Donald Trump — were uttered.
For those keeping score, Mr. Cox made no mention of Mr. Trump, though some of his language might have seemed familiar to anyone who had been to a Trump rally. “I represent change,” he said. “We are going to start reforming our broken political system from Day 1.”
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How quaint. Did anyone even know about this? And John Cox messed up BIGLY by distancing himself from Trump. The ONLY reason why he made it past the primaries is Trump's twitter endorsement! If he were smart: he would have asked Trump to be tweeting to Californians constantly and even invite him to rally here! But alas, Cox is not even bothering to campaign whatsoever.
Well! there goes that...
If that’s what he has chosen to do, I agree with you.
I still maintain that decent ideals can sell in California, if some decade some smart guy decides to present them here again.
Trump could have turned the state back to the right, but our timid leaders have learned nothing from all this.
Mr. Trump? They don't even try to appear unbiased. Are they comparing Cox to Trump? What language? I listened to the entire debate. They did everything they could to bury it. I had to listen to it streaming from some lefty site. And the moderator was also helping Newsom out. Are they angry someone else is speaking in plain simple truth on issues that affect *most* of us? In the debate they kept dragging up their pet issue of rights for deviates and kinky ding dings.
I like this part. It was the best part of the debate. The cut the audio about 2 seconds after Cox said it.
""What they agreed on was a single debate. On the radio. On a Monday morning. Did we mention it was Columbus Day? “I’ve agreed to five of these and I can’t get my young friend to do that,” Mr. Cox lamented just before the microphones went dead.""
“And John Cox messed up BIGLY by distancing himself from Trump.”
BS!! Trump is a major negative here in CA to the great unwashed voters. And I am a staunch Trump supporter. Trump doesn’t come here for rallies because the results would be a disaster for him!
In a deep blue state, John Cox is a mere 6 points behind Far left Democrat Governors candidate and San Franciscan mayor Gavin Newsome. Cox has been running ads almost non stop since January on the internet and radio. ( He paused for most of the summer, but is back in full campaign mode.)
While I do not expect him to win the race will be far closer than the Dems are expecting. For once the Republican House is running ads urging people to vote for “Republicans” and supporting President Trump’s political agenda. The first time in years for California.
If the Republicans keep this up over the years they’ll be able to turn California back to it’s historically conservative roots. You’ll note that there are more Republican voters in California than any other state.....Heck even this Forum is based here in Fresno which has Devin Nunes as a Congressman!
The “tax cut” that most of the nation enjoyed was paid for on the backs of California tax payers.. it was tax REDISTRIBUTION, a phony tax cut by a phony conservative. Good for Cox for distancing himself.
If Newsom is elected that will likely mean 8 years of yet another leftist worse the Brown. By that time I would think the leftist running CA will have seeded all levels of government thoroughly and completely.
Look, the GOP lost California when Prop 187 was overturned and the flood of illegals continued. The Democrats continue to sow the wind with illegal aliens, coming up with moronic ideas like motor-voter (automatic voter registration along with driver license renewal, no proof of citizenship needed). The only chance the GOP has in California is to follow the Trump model - abandon conventional wisdom, point out the failures of the Democrats loudly and often, and speak politically incorrect truths. There’s a strong streak of social conservatism in the Mexican community - these are not natural allies of guys like Gavin Newsome. They respect strength in men, and the GOP milksops who continue to position themselves as Democrat-lite are never going to win California again.
CA is gone. It is never going to turn back to the right. Demography is destiny.
I’m sure you’ve heard that Hispanics do support Trump’s immigration stance. They are also Christians and law and order people. They are the ones most at risk of gang activity. They like that their unemployment is the lowest it’s been on record.
We could say a number of the same things about Blacks. With the #Walk-away and #Run-away movement, there is plenty of ground for support among these groups.
It has become a big joke all the middle class flight out of the state. Many people see what is happening to the state, but there is no big name opposition to what is taking place.
If we get more Conservatives or even people to the polls to support our side, it means that all the other issues on the ballot benefit.
Metaphorically we have had new cars in the state for thirty years, with no show room floors and no salesmen. And now were tossing in the towel because we had no sales.
We need to get our heads in the game.
Actually, illegals are just a symptom of the root cause of the problem in CA.
When Republicans act like me-too feckless Democrats, they lose. Their supporters stay home and leftists will continue to the vote for Democrats. It's just that simple.
It started with Pete Wilson, and look what happened to Arnold when he immediately began to embrace global warming and other Democrat initiatives. He DESTROYED the CA GOP.
Cox doesn't stand a chance. Even if he wins, the Dem legislature and courts will stop any of his proposals.
The State legislature is dominated by the Dems. 26-14 in the state Senate and 54-25 in the House.
Hillary won by over 4 million votes 61% to 31% for Trump. The Dems have won the last 7 Presidential elections and Hillary got the highest vote ever with the largest victory margin topping Obama's winning margin in 2008 by over a million votes. Non-Hispanic whites are less than half the population and that number is declining every year.
I lived in San Diego for two years in the mid-1960s. CA was the leader in the country in so many ways. It is now one of the poorest states in the country with a K-12 education system that is among the nation's worst.
I can see no way that CA can turn things around. The flow of immigrants and illegal aliens is sucking the state dry. It is a shame to see what has happened to CA.
Where do you live? I am a native of L.A. and live among immigrants from Korea, Philippines, Armenia (Armenians especially stick out to me as Trump supporters) Iran, Ukraine, Russia, Orthodox Jews, you name it...
Many churchgoers especially including in the African-American Christian community support Trump (which annoys one of my liberal friends a great deal.)
Some of the Republican candidates for local office in Orange County are of Chinese and Korean descent etc...
“And John Cox messed up BIGLY by distancing himself from Trump.”
Trump is a major negative here in CA to the great unwashed voters. And I am a staunch Trump supporter. Trump doesn’t come here for rallies because the results would be a disaster for him!
Your anectdotal information doesn’t explain how Hillary won by 4 million votes or why the Dems have won the last 7 Presidential elections. Or why there is no Rep challenger to Feinstein.
Almost, each and every highly populated state and, even more, each and every U.S. city with the most population is controlled by The Left, big time, and The Right, still, hasn’t found successful ways to, finally, put an actual end to The Left’s ongoing political dominance, within the highest U.S. populated areas.
Well you’re wrong. John Cox shouldn’t even be on the ballot. It should have been Antonio Villairagoisa vs. Newsom. Trump made the difference.
California as a state never passed initiatives like gay marriage whenever it was on the ballot as a proposition, even when Obama won the state.
The courts ended up deciding the issue.
Republicans here have loser mentality and bad candidates. Lots of people are apathetic and don’t show up to vote even if they’re conservative leaning. There are plenty of registered independents worth swaying and who are sick of all the glaring problems of the state...but alas: John Cox isn’t campaigning.
Maybe next time.
I want Peter Thiel to run for mayor of L.A. or governor personally.
The Dems have been way better organized and Republicans (like yourself apparently) have loser mentality. It wasn’t that long ago when a governor had an ‘R’ next to his name...however moderate he may have been. (Ah-nahld Schwarzenegger)
Governor Gray Davis (D) got recalled remember? I was a child and I remember!
If it weren’t for Trump, John Cox would not even be in the race. It would be Newsom vs. Villaroigosa. What a waste the Cox campaign has been. Swing voters/independents are very malleable especially given how bad the state has become these days.
The GOP in the state needs a major makeover.
There are far more Dems than Reps. That is the problem. It has nothing to do with being better organized. Minorities and immigrants vote more than two to one Dem. CA has been colonized by the Third World.
Plenty of Third World people are often very traditional/religious and not up for transgender hoopla and other such first world indulgences...
Anyway...we shall see what happens.
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