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Mexico's president-elect wants to rename USMCA in Spanish
The Hill ^ | 10/09/18 | RAFAEL BERNAL

Posted on 10/09/2018 10:32:08 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Mexico's President-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Tuesday President Trump's preferred acronym for the free trade agreement between the United States, Mexico and Canada, USMCA, is not "adequate" in Spanish.

Lopez Obrador said in a tweet his chief trade negotiator, Jesús Seade, alerted him the USMCA acronym does not suit Mexican law, under which the trade pact would be a formal treaty, not an agreement.

The USMCA -- short for United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement -- is set to replace the 25-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), once ratified by the three countries' legislatures.

In Spanish, NAFTA was known as TLCAN, short for "Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte."

Me envió un mensaje Jesús Seade, nuestro negociador en el asunto del tratado con Estados Unidos y Canadá. Sostiene que es necesario buscarle un nombre al Tratado porque las siglas USMCA, no son adecuadas. Vean su razonamiento:

— Andrés Manuel (@lopezobrador_) October 9, 2018 Trump insisted on the name change after vilifying NAFTA as the "worst trade deal ever."


TOPICS: Canada; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amlo; canada; justintrudeau; mexico; mexixo; nafta; trump; usmca
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To: rjsimmon
The answer is right in the article...

In Spanish, NAFTA was known as TLCAN, short for "Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte."

21 posted on 10/09/2018 12:45:39 PM PDT by Hugin ("Not one step from his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I understand that the words “Estados Unidos” appear in the official names of both countries. I’d be willing to bet that when asked most Mexicans would say that the USA is what they think of when they hear the phrase.

No matter how you slice it, the words are different in English and Spanish. That was my point.
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You’re right, and I wasn’t disagreeing. I was just being a bit of a know-it-all. Sorry.


22 posted on 10/09/2018 12:52:42 PM PDT by Gideon300
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To: Gideon300

I learned something new. Now I know it all!


23 posted on 10/09/2018 12:57:47 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Boomer

A rose by any name is still a rose...
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Discussions like this always remind of the old anecdote attributed to Abraham Lincoln:

“If you call a dog’s tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?”

Four. Call it whatever want, but it doesn’t change the facts, contrary to modern liberal thinking.


24 posted on 10/09/2018 12:59:57 PM PDT by Gideon300
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To: yesthatjallen

Ok. Call it MUSCA or CUSMA or El Burrito Grande. Don’t mean droppings to me what you name it. Just signed it.


25 posted on 10/09/2018 1:18:44 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (CNN - the most busted name in news.)
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To: Hugin
The point is, both are AGREEMENTS. Mexican law specifically calls out the difference; it was not an issue with NAFTA but apparently is with USMCA.
26 posted on 10/09/2018 1:19:24 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Well whaddya know. Mexican law actually respects the difference between an agreement and a treaty.

As should we. This 'agreement' is actually a treaty, and should require senate approval, just like nafta should have.

27 posted on 10/09/2018 2:27:55 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Two of us speak English.

Two trumps one.

Deal with it.

28 posted on 10/09/2018 3:00:51 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

latinos sometimes REFUSE to call us Americans.

They say “we’re Americans, too!!”.

Yeah, tell that to our Allies in WW2.


29 posted on 10/09/2018 3:06:02 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

People from North,Central,and South America ARE Americans-—they are NOT all US citizens,though.

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30 posted on 10/09/2018 3:12:31 PM PDT by Mears
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To: fishtank

In the later 1920s the Republican presidents gave weapons to and supported the Marxist Mexican regime of Calles in his genocide of Catholics and Libertarians. In exchange for wiping out Catholics President Marxist Calles gave the US Mexican oil.

That created a anti-US anti-Republican Mexican Catholics and libertarians while just making the Marxists cynical.

Libertarian leaning Fox and social conservative Calderon changed that a little. But the cultural bent changes slowly.

See FOR GREATER GLORY with Andy Garcia for the whole story.


31 posted on 10/09/2018 3:32:29 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: fishtank

Mexico was an ally in WW II.


32 posted on 10/09/2018 4:50:24 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: rjsimmon

I’m not an expert on Mexican law, but it doesn’t matter what they call it. We call it an agreement, because treaties must be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. They can call it a treaty, agreement, covenant, understanding or whatever Spanish word they want, it doesn’t change it under our law. They called NAFTA a treaty, but that didn’t make it one for us. This is no different.


33 posted on 10/09/2018 8:37:18 PM PDT by Hugin ("Not one step from his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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