Posted on 10/09/2018 10:32:08 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
Mexico's President-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Tuesday President Trump's preferred acronym for the free trade agreement between the United States, Mexico and Canada, USMCA, is not "adequate" in Spanish.
Lopez Obrador said in a tweet his chief trade negotiator, Jesús Seade, alerted him the USMCA acronym does not suit Mexican law, under which the trade pact would be a formal treaty, not an agreement.
The USMCA -- short for United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement -- is set to replace the 25-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), once ratified by the three countries' legislatures.
In Spanish, NAFTA was known as TLCAN, short for "Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte."
Me envió un mensaje Jesús Seade, nuestro negociador en el asunto del tratado con Estados Unidos y Canadá. Sostiene que es necesario buscarle un nombre al Tratado porque las siglas USMCA, no son adecuadas. Vean su razonamiento:
Andrés Manuel (@lopezobrador_) October 9, 2018 Trump insisted on the name change after vilifying NAFTA as the "worst trade deal ever."
In Spanish, NAFTA was known as TLCAN, short for "Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte."
I understand that the words Estados Unidos appear in the official names of both countries. Id be willing to bet that when asked most Mexicans would say that the USA is what they think of when they hear the phrase.
No matter how you slice it, the words are different in English and Spanish. That was my point.
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You’re right, and I wasn’t disagreeing. I was just being a bit of a know-it-all. Sorry.
I learned something new. Now I know it all!
A rose by any name is still a rose...
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Discussions like this always remind of the old anecdote attributed to Abraham Lincoln:
“If you call a dog’s tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?”
Four. Call it whatever want, but it doesn’t change the facts, contrary to modern liberal thinking.
Ok. Call it MUSCA or CUSMA or El Burrito Grande. Don’t mean droppings to me what you name it. Just signed it.
As should we. This 'agreement' is actually a treaty, and should require senate approval, just like nafta should have.
Two trumps one.
Deal with it.
latinos sometimes REFUSE to call us Americans.
They say “we’re Americans, too!!”.
Yeah, tell that to our Allies in WW2.
People from North,Central,and South America ARE Americans-—they are NOT all US citizens,though.
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In the later 1920s the Republican presidents gave weapons to and supported the Marxist Mexican regime of Calles in his genocide of Catholics and Libertarians. In exchange for wiping out Catholics President Marxist Calles gave the US Mexican oil.
That created a anti-US anti-Republican Mexican Catholics and libertarians while just making the Marxists cynical.
Libertarian leaning Fox and social conservative Calderon changed that a little. But the cultural bent changes slowly.
See FOR GREATER GLORY with Andy Garcia for the whole story.
Mexico was an ally in WW II.
I’m not an expert on Mexican law, but it doesn’t matter what they call it. We call it an agreement, because treaties must be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. They can call it a treaty, agreement, covenant, understanding or whatever Spanish word they want, it doesn’t change it under our law. They called NAFTA a treaty, but that didn’t make it one for us. This is no different.
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