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Red-state Dems face nightmare scenario on Kavanaugh
The Hill ^ | 10/02/18 | ALEXANDER BOLTON

Posted on 10/02/2018 5:20:35 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Senate Democrats up for reelection this year in deep-red states face a nightmare decision on how to handle Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

Vulnerable Democrats are hoping Republicans will force him to withdraw his nomination, allowing them to avoid politically divisive votes.

The Democrats in the toughest position are Sens. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.) and Joe Manchin (W.Va.).

Heitkamp and Manchin are undecided, and both are seeking another six-year term in states that Trump won by double digits in 2016. Donnelly is in much the same boat but said on Friday that he would vote ‘no’ on Kavanaugh.

All three voted for President Trump’s first Supreme Court pick, Neil Gorsuch, in 2017.

But this time around the partisan divide is much more bitter: The seat Kavanaugh has been tapped to fill will likely determine the balance of the court for years, and a confirmation vote is slated to take place a month before Election Day.

The Democratic base is much more fired up about Kavanaugh than it was about Gorsuch, who was confirmed in April 2017.

Liberal activists staged a sit-in Monday at Manchin’s campaign office in West Virginia in an effort to pressure him to vote against the nominee.

One Democratic senator, who requested anonymity, said there’s hopeful talk within the Senate Democratic caucus that Kavanaugh will drop out, even though he has adamantly vowed to stay.

The lawmaker said Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) is urging undecided centrist Democrats to wait until three undecided Republicans — Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.) — make their positions known.

“He’s telling them, ‘Keep your powder dry.’ That means you don’t have to decide this -- wait and see how it plays out. There’s some speculation that Kavanaugh may not last,” the lawmaker said. “They always vow to stay right until they don’t.”

A second Democratic senator said there’s widespread disbelief in the caucus that Kavanaugh is holding on.

“I just had a conversation with a colleague who said they couldn’t believe he hasn’t dropped out yet,” the second lawmaker said Monday evening. “There was a time he could have done it gracefully and could have protected the Supreme Court.”

The lawmaker said whether Kavanaugh keeps fighting “depends on what else the FBI finds and where the votes are” but observed that “public opinion is trending against him after his testimony Thursday.”

A Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released exclusively to The Hill on Monday found that 37 percent of registered voters want their senators to give Kavanaugh’s nomination the thumbs up, while 44 percent want them to vote down Trump’s nominee.

Eighteen percent of respondents were undecided in the survey conducted from Sept. 29 to 30, two days after Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee to give testimony regarding her allegation that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her at a party in 1982 when they were both in high school.

One previously undecided Democrat, Sen. Jon Tester (Mont.), who is up for reelection in a state Trump won by 20 points, came out against Kavanaugh the day after the nominee’s angry rebuttal of Ford’s allegation.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), however, said he will force vulnerable Democrats to vote on the nominee.

“The time for endless delay and obstruction has come to a close,” he said on the floor Monday. “We’ll be voting this week.”

Kavanaugh vowed last week to stick it out, no matter what.

“I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process,” he declared in his opening statement to the Judiciary Committee.

A day after his testimony, Senate GOP leaders agreed to a request from Flake to delay a Senate floor vote on Kavanaugh to give the FBI time to investigate the allegations against him. That probe is expected to be completed later this week.

Heitkamp suggested at a campaign stop Friday in North Dakota that Trump and GOP leaders could defuse the situation by finding another nominee, who would have just enough time to be confirmed before Congress adjourns for the year.

“There’s a lot of lawyers in America who can sit on the court,” she said in Grand Forks, according to the Associated Press. “I think this idea that there’s only one person that can do this job, we all need to recalibrate.”

Senate aides see Heitkamp as less likely to support Kavanaugh than Manchin because she has a stronger record defending abortion rights. His confirmation could tip the court’s balance against Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 decision that established abortion rights nationwide.

Heitkamp may also feel more pressure to believe Ford’s allegation, which has exposed a significant gender divide among the electorate.

A recent USA Today/Ipsos Public Affairs Poll showed that 35 percent of women nationwide believe Ford’s accusation, while only 21 percent of men do. Women oppose him 43 percent to 23 percent, while men support him 40 percent to 36 percent.

Donnelly said last week, after Thursday’s Senate hearing, that he would “gladly welcome the opportunity to work with President Trump on a new nominee for this critically important position.”

Manchin has kept in close contact with undecided Republicans during the Kavanaugh debate.

He met with Collins, Murkowski and Flake in a Capitol Hill hideaway after Ford and Kavanaugh testified Thursday and, like them, didn’t give any hint afterward about how he would vote.

“We’re friends. We talk. There’s no decisions on anything. No one told me they made a decision, and we’re all still looking and talking and comparing,” Manchin told reporters after the meeting.

Donnelly said he would oppose Kavanaugh because he didn’t have enough information to assess the allegations against him, though he left himself a little bit of room to support the nominee if the FBI probe fails to turn up any corroborating evidence.

He cited the lack of a supplemental FBI investigation and his own inability “to get all information necessary” as reasons for his opposition.

Donnelly declined to answer a question Monday about whether he would be open to changing his position.

Trump has sent signals that he may now be of a mixed opinion about Kavanaugh.

On Friday he described Ford as “a very fine woman” and “very credible.”

The president on Monday said he was “surprised” at how vocal Kavanaugh “was about the fact that he likes beer and he’s had a little bit of difficulty.”

Trump noted that while he himself never drank, he saw a lot of people drinking in high school.

“They’d drink beer then go crazy,” he said in comments that appeared to undercut the nominee’s defense of his drinking habits.

But Trump also wants red-state Democrats to pay a political price if Kavanaugh goes down.

Trump chewed out McConnell 11 days ago in a private phone call from his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., for letting Kavanaugh’s nomination drag on, according to The New York Times.

The president later told associates that senators should have been forced to vote down Kavanaugh and suffer the political backlash, The Times reported.

But vulnerable Democrats wouldn’t be the only ones put in a tough spot with a floor vote. Collins, Flake and Murkowski, while not up for reelection this year, all have their political futures to consider if the Senate holds a confirmation vote on Kavanaugh.

Flake is retiring from Congress in early January. Collins is up for reelection in 2020, followed by Murkowski in 2022.

Republican candidates running against red-state Democrats have used Kavanaugh's nomination to go on the attack.

Rep. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) has called Ford’s accusations “absurd” and criticized Democrats for orchestrating a campaign against the nominee.

“At some point Brett Kavanaugh deserves due process,” Cramer said in a radio interview. “You can’t just stage these allegations to delay the Supreme Court.”

Indiana businessman Mike Braun (R) has accused Donnelly of being “more concerned with standing with his liberal Democrat leaders than standing for Hoosiers.”

West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey, who is running against Manchin, has accused his opponent of being “complicit in Senate Democrats’ disgraceful treatment of President Trump’s Supreme Court pick.”

The Senate Leadership Fund, whose president and CEO, Steven Law, is McConnell’s former chief of staff, highlighted a Republican poll Friday showing that 58 percent of West Virginians support confirming Kavanaugh, while 28 percent oppose him. The survey was conducted by Public Opinion Strategies, a GOP polling firm, for the Judicial Crisis Network, a group that is spending more than $1 million on ads targeting red-state Democrats in an effort to pressure them to support Kavanaugh.

Some Republicans say centrist Democrats will be tempted to seize on any potential failure by the FBI investigation as a reason to vote for Kavanaugh.

“It’s a really terrible vote for them,” said a senior GOP aide.

Manchin on Monday said a lot would depend on the findings of the FBI probe.

“This investigation’s going to tell a lot,” he said.


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KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; 2018midtersm; democrats; donnelly; heitkamp; in2018; kavanaugh; manchin; midterms; nd2018; redstates; trumpscotus; wv2018
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To: LS
McSally’s seat in AZ (until I hear differently)

Wow. Right now you think Sinema will win??

81 posted on 10/02/2018 11:48:03 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: yesthatjallen

Just put some ice on it.


82 posted on 10/02/2018 11:57:57 AM PDT by buffaloguy (MSM: Wind up dolls of the DNC.)
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To: Jane Long
Sad that McSally can’t beat the lesbo socialist, in AZ.

That's absolutely appalling to me, if that happens. What the hell is going on in AZ where a great candidate (yes, I know... moderate Republican) like McSally can't beat a kook like Sinema?? I just don't get it.

83 posted on 10/02/2018 12:02:19 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: yesthatjallen

All well and good, but we are being held Hostage by two Red State Republicans, Flake and Murkowski.

Collins is in Blue Maine. Well, mostly blue anyway. We can only afford to lose one of those three, and I am pretty sure that flakey Flake is already a NO Vote.


84 posted on 10/02/2018 12:06:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: nutmeg

No, never fear, McSally is beating Hollyweird Cinema, it is her House seat that is leaning left.


85 posted on 10/02/2018 12:08:44 PM PDT by Lakeside Granny (Trumps Golden Rule: "They hit me, I hit back 10x harder!")
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To: Lakeside Granny; LS; Jane Long
No, never fear, McSally is beating Hollyweird Cinema, it is her House seat that is leaning left.

Oh, OK. I get it now. *Apologies* to you, and to LS (post 41 above). I misunderstood! Thank you, Lakeside Granny. :-)

So it's AZ-2 that is probably gone to the democRAT candidate.

I think I need to cut back on the caffeine... Can't wait 'til the mid-terms are over!

86 posted on 10/02/2018 12:16:59 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Kickass Conservative
Collins is in Blue Maine. Well, mostly blue anyway.

Yes, sadly most of Maine is Blue, although there *are* several pockets of red here and there (as there are in states like NH, NY and MA).

What about Murkowski though? As far as I know, Alaska is a pretty solid RED state.

snowFLAKE... Eff him! Good riddance...

87 posted on 10/02/2018 12:20:06 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Dahoser

Somebody whose state gives us Schumer and Gillebrand criticizes Arizona? Are you nuts?


88 posted on 10/02/2018 12:30:06 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: nutmeg

No worries, think we all are frazzled and living on nerves.


89 posted on 10/02/2018 12:55:35 PM PDT by Lakeside Granny (Trumps Golden Rule: "They hit me, I hit back 10x harder!")
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To: Lakeside Granny
Thanks, Gran, for the correction 👍🏻👍🏻
90 posted on 10/02/2018 1:35:26 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Luke21
Yes, I'm clearly nuts, but that doesn't mean I cannot criticize other states like Arizona. The damage done by McCain over the years and now Flake eclipses the damage done by D'Amato, Schumer, and that twit Gillibrand.

Not that that lets the People's Republic of New York off the hook by any stretch. This state is a walk advertisement for the brilliance of the Framers in having the Electoral College. Were we to have similar here, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in where Gillibrand and our sfacchimm of a governor, Cuomo, are going to be easily re-elected because of New York City and its surrounding area.

91 posted on 10/02/2018 3:48:50 PM PDT by Dahoser
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To: LS

I went down memory lane and found this article. Liberal tears are so sweet.

To Reclaim the House, Democrats Need to Flip 24 G.O.P. Seats. 25 Are in Clinton Territory.
By JASMINE C. LEE MARCH 26, 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/26/us/elections/house-races-midterms.html


92 posted on 10/02/2018 7:33:42 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: wastoute

I get the same perception. Spinning as he goes is Alex.


93 posted on 10/02/2018 7:38:55 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

When the prosecutions of the lawyers and perjured accusers are over and the dust settles those Dems that weathered the storm will be less willing to lie and suborn perjury. The next confirmation may go a lot smoother. POTUS understands play to win. Heads are going to roll.


94 posted on 10/02/2018 7:53:21 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: LS

Tester is a committed libtard who voted against Gorsuch. No chance he was ever gonna vote for Kav even before this. The only 4 who might, Donnelly (says no now), Heidi; Manchin, and the bastard in Alabama (who said he’d vote no 5 days ago and has been ducking constituents in fear ever since)

In House calculations don’t forget to take into account us taking back Lambchop’s seat, which is certain (though he may beat Rolfthus in that new courtmandered seat)

I think Enema’s seat is a lost cause, D leaning and a strong rat candidate in the former Mayor of Phoenix.


95 posted on 10/02/2018 8:11:00 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
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To: Lazamataz; LS

Laz,

Thanks for clarifying what Larry meant about moving IN. Was puzzled.

Totally agree. If you’re having trouble getting rid of a couch pest, play speeches by Hillary all day long on tv.

Voila,

IN is OUT


96 posted on 10/03/2018 1:49:56 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: Impy

I think Enema’s seat is closer than Lamb’s.

Enema’s seat actually has more registered Rs, but it’s the indies that hurt there because it stretches from southern Scottsdale into Tempe and ASU. However, this is a midterm, and students don’t turnout for a midterm, let alone a House seat, like they do for a president.

I think if we keep the ASU precincts to >25% turnout, we have a real shot.

No, Jones will not vote for K. I heard last night however from a source I think you would trust that Yertle had a heated come to Jesus meeting with the Three Cuckateers, and basically said their careers in and out of politics were finished if they didn’t vote for K, and that he personally would make sure Collins lost her governor’s race and that MurCowSki would never get past a primary again. He reportedly told Flakey he’d make sure that he never got a lobbying or any other kind of job.

Yertle looks squishy, but the turtle can play serious hardball when he needs to. He held up Garland and 60 DemoKKKrat judges for a full year.


97 posted on 10/03/2018 6:15:42 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: JayGalt

Right now, my scoreboard has them with between 10-14 likely flips net. Remember we’ll flip two D-R seats in MN. Now we hae a third in AZ possible. I think 1-2 are possible in CA, especially Sabato, Jr., whose predecessor only lost by 6,000 and who has been working this district for two years.

Trump is good for 5 points. This isn’t my opinion. Both Richard Baris and yesterday Larry Sabato said exactly the same thing. Now, this “aura” fades after a week, so wherever Trump goes in the last week is where it’s close.

I think if he’s in NV, Heller and NV4 will be gains. Doubt he’ll go to CA because it would ignite the D crazies.


98 posted on 10/03/2018 6:20:44 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: yesthatjallen
Red-state Dems face nightmare scenario on Kavanaugh

Just think of all the ways that the Dems have painted themselves into a corner right now... and then marvel at how anyone still supports them. It is really a testament to the power of televised propaganda and social media manipulation.

They face a nightmare if the economy improves, if healthcare improves, if international relations improve, if we are successful against ISIS, if we find a diplomatic victory over Iran or North Korea or Russia or China, if consumer confidence increases, if housing start are up, if the environment doesn't have a calamity, if global temperatures do not rise, if ocean levels do not rise...

In short, if anything good happens, or anything bad does not happen... they are at risk. They have to hope for bad days for America and the world so that they can climb back into power... and yet, somehow, they find half of the nation fervently behind them, hoping for the same things.

Thankfully, most of those good things ARE happening, and the bad mostly are not. Pray that it continues and more people begin to see what the Left openly hopes for.

99 posted on 10/03/2018 6:46:18 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: LS; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks Larry.

100 posted on 10/03/2018 8:54:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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