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Catholic church rapidly disappearing from Netherlands, archbishop says ^ | September 14, 2018 | Janene Pieters

Posted on 09/18/2018 2:20:30 AM PDT by Salman

The Catholic Church is rapidly disappearing from the Netherlands. Over ten years the entire archdiocese of Utrecht will probably only consist of 10 to 15 churches that still hold the Eucharistic celebrations, compared to the current 280 churches, Archbishop Wim Eijk said in an interview with the Gelderlander.

According to Eijk, 10 percent of the parishes in his diocese are actually bankrupt, 10 percent are still rich and the other 80 percent are somewhere in between. The aging Catholic population and a rapid decline in church attendance is causing a problematic situation. Every year catholic church attendance decreases by 5 to 6 percent. And fewer and fewer people support their church financially.

Officially the Netherlands has 3.5 million Catholic residents, but the vast majority of them never go to church, the Archbishop said. On average 173,500 people attend a Catholic church over the weekend, according to figures from the Nijmegen institute Kaski. "The church is not closed by people who are still coming or by me, but by those who stay away and do not contribute anymore", Eijk said to the newspaper.

One big problem is the high maintenance costs of the large, monumental churches. Keeping them open is becoming unaffordable.

Four years ago Eijk predicted that by 2028 there will only be 20 or 30 parishes left in the Utrecht diocese, the largest diocese in the Netherlands in terms of area. He now says that expectation was too positive. He believes that parishes will have to merge on a large scale.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; europe; europeanchristians; religion; secularization
Meanwhile, a certain alleged religion of peace (same publication):

Growing group of young Salafists increasingly isolated from society: report

There is a growing group of young salafists in the Netherlands who politicians can't get a grip on, according to a study by Mohammad Nazar Soroush at Tilburg University, for which he is receiving his doctorate, NOS reports.

Nazar Soroush studied salafist Muslims in the Netherlands for 15 years. He visited 64 religious meetings over the past three years, and listened and watched young salafists at mosques, foundations and leisure activities. Salafists are Muslims who try to live as strictly as possible to the authentic, pure form of Islam.

The young salafists seek the protection of a closed community, that has traits of a family, Nazar Soroush said. What struck the researcher, was how negative the young people are about the world outside theirs. "They can not spend time with old friends, or people who are not their ideological brothers", he said to NOS. "A girl asked what she should say to a colleague who says salam aleikum when she comes in. The answer: do not say 'As-salamu alaikum' (peace be upon you) but 'Aleikum' (upon you), because the colleague as non-Muslim is not worthy of peace."


1 posted on 09/18/2018 2:20:30 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

And on that last, we are told we must COEXIST!

2 posted on 09/18/2018 3:02:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Salman

they are foreign funded colonists. Imperial Islam is on the rise.

3 posted on 09/18/2018 3:16:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: Salman

The church that advances the cause of Islam will not retain or attract Christians.

4 posted on 09/18/2018 3:20:04 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: Salman
If,by chance,the Church in Holland preaches “we must love our moslem brothers” then it's doomed anyway because the Religion of Piece has no real desire to tolerate Christianity.Any Christian,or Jew,who preached coexistence has a suicide wish.
5 posted on 09/18/2018 3:35:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: Salman

The way to deal with salafists is to kill them before they kill you.

6 posted on 09/18/2018 3:54:47 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: jimfree; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
The church that advances the cause of Islam will not retain or attract Christians.

And Islam feeds off the carcass of dead institutionalized "Christianity," as it has in the past.

7 posted on 09/18/2018 3:56:09 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Gay State Conservative

So nice to be on this side of the pond where we Yanks can listen to distant Euroweenies lecturing us about our “lax gun laws” while their society is being raped by hordes of hostile Muslim invaders.

Meanwhile, muzzies in our midst are confronted with hordes of armed “infidels” with CCW’s who regard Islam as the enemy. They cry unto Allah; a buck Muslim assaulting a woman here could wind up dead and it’s just not fair.

8 posted on 09/18/2018 4:09:05 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: daniel1212
And Islam feeds off the carcass of dead institutionalized "Christianity," as it has in the past.

And that is exactly why the Byzantine Empire fell to these Mohammedan workers of iniquity. As a consequence, the Ottomans ruled the eastern Europeans as if they were dogs, and mongrels at that. The cost of phony religion that existed only in dhimmitude until 1920s.

Now Turkey is reviving that paradigm because of the lack of any effective resistance against it. So much for Papal "peace" with persecutors and paedophiles.

9 posted on 09/18/2018 4:19:07 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Salman

Both the Catholic and Protestant churches in Western Europe are so far left-wing that they are essentially a branch of the Socialist or Communist parties. They are all about helping the invaders and trying to guilt people into supported a variety of charities, to the detriment of their own flocks and national culture. One reason people don’t attend church anymore is because it is more about leftist politics than anything spiritual..and what is spiritual is generally watered-down feelgoodism. The Orthodox Church is growing however (which isn’t mentioned here), but can never outpace the dominance of Islam. Soon enough West European cathedrals will have muezzins calling from the towers, replacing the ancient church bells. Western Europe is fast committing suicide, and is largely indifferent about it.

10 posted on 09/18/2018 4:31:53 AM PDT by EURASLEEP (The EU is Crashing and They're Asleep at the Wheel)
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To: Salman
During the Wars of Religion the phrase "Turk van der Paps" -- "Better the Turk than the Pope" -- was popular in the Netherlands.

By the time the Dutch realize than Islam is not preferable to anything, there may not be enough of them left to do anything about it.

11 posted on 09/18/2018 4:43:48 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Salman

Catholic church doesn’t practice what they preach. The Pope has thrown out the Bible. If you are a member of the clergy it is ok to abuse people.

12 posted on 09/18/2018 5:22:13 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: FreedomPoster
The Catholic Church had better clean up it's act, or be put out of business, at least in this country. Christianity doesn't include pedophilia and other abhorrent sexual deviancy among its tennets. The current Pope needs to go now, along with all the scumbag priests that the church has protected for decades. In addition, we need to arrest and jail any High Church Official who openly calls for ignoring US Immigration Law. That worthless Cardinal in Los Angeles needs to be the first to go to the graybar motel.
13 posted on 09/18/2018 5:28:26 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Salman

Well maybe the Catholic church in the Netherlands would be in better shape financially if they had quit raping boys a bit earlier.
(The Vatican claims they stopped in 2011)

14 posted on 09/18/2018 5:34:07 AM PDT by PAR35
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The piece says there are 3.5 million catholics with 173 k actually attending mass.

How many protestants?

Has the reformation prevailed?

15 posted on 09/18/2018 5:37:14 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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16 posted on 09/18/2018 6:15:32 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: imardmd1
As in the PACT OF UMAR (used by Islam in attempting to slowly strangle Christianity)
17 posted on 09/18/2018 8:21:23 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: bert

Christianity on the whole is declining in the Netherlands.

As of 2015, over half the county claims no religious affiliation.

Per those same statistics, Protestantism has declined from about 60% in the mid-20th century, to about 20% now, less than the number of those claiming Catholic affiliation.

The largest Protestant denomination, the PKN, embraces religious “pluralism”; 42% of members are non-theist, and 1 out of 6 clergymen are agnostic or atheist.

18 posted on 09/18/2018 8:32:37 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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19 posted on 09/18/2018 3:23:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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