Posted on 09/16/2018 8:39:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
The COS doesn’t do anything except make proposals to the states. If the required three-quarters of the states vote to assassinate America, then America is already dead, and it truly would be a blessing to know where we stand.
What, you think statesmen of impeccable education and experience will be sent??
Have you seen the illiterate boobs in Congress already?? One think islands can tip over. Another thinks we sent men to Mars. Most believe in socialism.
Who says the legislatures get to pick the delegates anyway?? That’s not in the constitution. The legislatures only get to call a convention.
You do have a point there.
heck, I’m willing to forgo the politics and get the shooting on! Why bother having delegates fight about it first?
This is from the Convention of States site:
In the very first application filed by Virginia in 1789, the Virginia General Assembly properly called this process a “Convention of States.” It is not a Convention of delegates from States. It is a Convention of sovereign units of government.
Every stage of the proceeding requires the States to act as singular sovereign entities. Thirty-four States must enact applications. There is no proportionality rule. One State, one vote. In the ratification process, thirty-eight States must ratify. There is no proportionality rule. One State, one vote. This same principle holds true for the Convention itself. There is no other way to vote other than one State, one vote when sovereign entities meet to transact mutual business.
There have been over thirty multistate conventions held in the history of the Republic. They have been sanctioned by a wide variety of sources of authority. The one rule that has been scrupulously followed in all these conventions is this—voting is always on the basis of one State, one vote. One convention proposed to change the voting to a proportional representation basis.
However, the vote on that motion was conducted on a one-State, one-vote basis and the motion was rejected.
The very fact that Article V does not specify a formula for the number of delegates indicates that the Framers understood that the States were not sending representatives who act in their individual capacities. The Framers knew that it would be one-State, one-vote, and that each State had the unfettered authority to determine the number and characteristics of their deputies. It would have been unacceptable to the Founders to say, for example, that each State gets three representatives. This would mean that representatives from State A could cast two votes for a proposition and one vote against it. This would be voting by individuals. The Framers wanted voting by States just as they did at the Constitutional Convention and every other convention that preceded it.
Accordingly, the number of delegates each State chooses to send is a non-issue. If State A sends 11 delegates and State B sends 7 delegates, both States only get one vote. Delegates must caucus and cast the vote for their State on each issue by a majority within that State.
Gratuitous sarcasm is not legitimate debate.
Why should we expect that the people who got us into this mess will be able to get us out of this mess?
The solution is to elect people to the House and Senate who will do what is required!
A con con will be nothing more than an exercise in futility, and will most certainly lead to less, not more, FReedom for We The People!
I’ve provided an explanatory link which you ignored, asked questions which you don’t answer, and you blindly insist on Huldah’s talking points.
This is our only chance. There will never be another in this Republic. If the dims every win power again we are finished. H@ll the dims in many areas are presently in rebellion and actively work to subvert elections. They break federal law with impunity and are protected by marxist judges and their senate comrades. And the Republic is too feeble to do anything about it. We better have a convention of states or the dims will march us to re-education centers and from there to death camps. The pie in the sky by and by attitude i continue to see is going to get millions killed because the marxists are never going to stop. That is their true history.
I have no interest in debating this issue with you: your mind is made up and so is mine.
My opposition to the con con remains as before: there is too much opportunity for LIEberal mischief.
I have read your link, and reject your arguments!
You oppose Article V COS.
You oppose congress proposing amendments?
What other clauses in the Constitution on this Constitution Day do you oppose?
Why do you equate congressmen with delegates to a COS?
Your cognitive functions leave much to be desired!
I WILL NOT DEBATE THIS WITH YOU!
ENOUGH!
They are very simple questions to answer. What’s the big deal?
I have no interest in debating this issue with you: your mind is made up and so is mine.
It’s a shame the first principle of republican government repulses you.
What part about “I’m not going to debate this issue with you” do you not understand?
http://articlevblog.com/2017/01/whatever-happened-to-the-articles-of-confederation-part-v/
You, obviously, did not get the memo.
Here it is again: I WILL NOT DEBATE THIS ISSUE WITH YOU!
This squib looks closely at the Anti's alternative to the Constitution:
http://articlevblog.com/2017/01/whatever-happened-to-the-articles-of-confederation-part-v/
I WILL NOT DEBATE THIS ISSUE WITH YOU!
http://articlevblog.com/2016/09/mark-levins-liberty-amendments-introduction/
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