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Top Gallup editor: Faulty polling led to inaccurate 2016 data models
The Hill ^
| September 10, 2018
Posted on 09/10/2018 2:04:57 PM PDT by SMGFan
Frank Newport, editor-in-chief at the Gallup Poll, on Monday said that data analyst websites, not national polls, were the ones incorrect in their 2016 presidential election predictions.
“The national polling was actually one of the more accurate years where they correctly predicted the popular vote,” Newport said to Hill.TV's Joe Concha, referring to national polls.
“But one of the things that happened was an overreliance on these models where various individuals and various companies put together these scientific-sounding probabilistic models,” he continued.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016polls; blamegame; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2016; franknewport; galluppoll; joeconcha; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; thehill
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No, you wanted to depress GOP support votes!
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:04:57 PM PDT
by
SMGFan
To: SMGFan
I lie to every pollster whose ever called.
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:08:09 PM PDT
by
PGR88
To: SMGFan
Is this why Reuters changed their polling methodology once Trump took the lead, in order to put Clinton back on top?
-PJ
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:08:35 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
To: Political Junkie Too
They’d rather win than be correct.
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:11:23 PM PDT
by
SMGFan
( .)
To: SMGFan
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:12:04 PM PDT
by
Lexington Green
(Sun Tzu Trumps Saul Alinsky)
To: SMGFan
They keep pulling off the same stupid tricks they did in 2016.
None of their polls will be anywhere near the actual result.
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:12:50 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: SMGFan
Thwarted election theft made the cover-story polls look out of sync.
To: SMGFan
INTENTIONALLY BIASED polling would be a more accurate description. Faulty implies incompetence or an honest mistake. I don’t think that’s the case.
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:17:05 PM PDT
by
Signalman
To: Signalman
“Not our fault, just the people we keep relying on and employing’s fault.”
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:19:24 PM PDT
by
jyo19
To: PGR88
I lie to every pollster whose ever called.
Me too. Voted straight Whig ticket since '96.
To: SMGFan
Hmmm. Faulty “scientific-sounding probabilistic models”. Those folks either came from, or have a future with the climate change wackos.
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:20:42 PM PDT
by
vajimbo
To: SMGFan
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:20:45 PM PDT
by
max americana
(Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
To: SMGFan
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:30:46 PM PDT
by
GOP Poet
To: Signalman
Sounds more like rank amateurs playing with data. How I detest news outlets starting with “One recent poll suggests...” blah blah blah
To: SMGFan
Accurate regarding national polls.... Who cares? The election win is based on the Electoral College numbers.
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:34:45 PM PDT
by
Freee-dame
(Best election ever!)
To: vajimbo
The thing is, the probabilistic models like Nate Silver's at 538 are not polls, they are analysis based on the polling data. I stopped reporting my probabilistic results because I had a strong feeling that the polls were faulty; Silver had to stick with what he created because his reputation was too established. His formulas were correct, but his input polling data was flawed.
-PJ
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:37:10 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
To: SMGFan
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:38:49 PM PDT
by
Raycpa
To: PGR88
Me too!.....................
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:39:21 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon.......Timelines change. Aug 16)
To: PGR88
I lie to every pollster whose ever called. I love to tell them I'm a black liberal democrat who approves of Trump. There have been a couple times the "professional" pollsters have been so caught off guard they start sputtering or say, "Let me repeat the question" then they would repeat it real slowly like I must have been to stupid to understand what I was being asked.
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:41:34 PM PDT
by
apillar
To: SMGFan
No, you wanted to depress GOP support votes! Finally, "we" figured out this deception.
Quick story.
Waaayyy back in (IIRC) 1988, I received a call from a polling agency (the Field Poll). This was when GHWB was running, and I was eager to take part in a major poll.
The young woman who read the questions and took my responses tried to guide me away from certain answers that she did not like (like voting for George Bush instead of Michael Dukakis.)
And, her attempts at steering my responses were not subtle.
And, the questions seemed framed to guide responses as well (but I have forgotten the precise details of a call 30 years ago.)
(As an aside, nobody should take part in such polls today, as they might be scammers.)
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posted on
09/10/2018 2:42:23 PM PDT
by
Seaplaner
(Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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