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No, you wanted to depress GOP support votes!
1 posted on 09/10/2018 2:04:57 PM PDT by SMGFan
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I lie to every pollster whose ever called.


2 posted on 09/10/2018 2:08:09 PM PDT by PGR88
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Is this why Reuters changed their polling methodology once Trump took the lead, in order to put Clinton back on top?

-PJ

3 posted on 09/10/2018 2:08:35 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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Garbage In- Garbage Out


5 posted on 09/10/2018 2:12:04 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Sun Tzu Trumps Saul Alinsky)
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They keep pulling off the same stupid tricks they did in 2016.

None of their polls will be anywhere near the actual result.


6 posted on 09/10/2018 2:12:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Thwarted election theft made the cover-story polls look out of sync.


7 posted on 09/10/2018 2:13:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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INTENTIONALLY BIASED polling would be a more accurate description. Faulty implies incompetence or an honest mistake. I don’t think that’s the case.


8 posted on 09/10/2018 2:17:05 PM PDT by Signalman
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Hmmm. Faulty “scientific-sounding probabilistic models”. Those folks either came from, or have a future with the climate change wackos.


11 posted on 09/10/2018 2:20:42 PM PDT by vajimbo
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faulty polling my ass...


12 posted on 09/10/2018 2:20:45 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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bookmark


13 posted on 09/10/2018 2:30:46 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Accurate regarding national polls.... Who cares? The election win is based on the Electoral College numbers.


15 posted on 09/10/2018 2:34:45 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever!)
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Direct swipe at 538.


17 posted on 09/10/2018 2:38:49 PM PDT by Raycpa
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No, you wanted to depress GOP support votes!

Finally, "we" figured out this deception.

Quick story.

Waaayyy back in (IIRC) 1988, I received a call from a polling agency (the Field Poll). This was when GHWB was running, and I was eager to take part in a major poll.

The young woman who read the questions and took my responses tried to guide me away from certain answers that she did not like (like voting for George Bush instead of Michael Dukakis.)

And, her attempts at steering my responses were not subtle.

And, the questions seemed framed to guide responses as well (but I have forgotten the precise details of a call 30 years ago.)

(As an aside, nobody should take part in such polls today, as they might be scammers.)

20 posted on 09/10/2018 2:42:23 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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Correct. It was not faulty polling. It was pure dishonesty, far and wide. They thought that if we were told often enough that Hillary would be POTUS, it would come true due to Trump voters staying home.


21 posted on 09/10/2018 2:43:07 PM PDT by NEMDF
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“In Minnesota for example, the most recent poll before the election was eleven days old ... and those state polls are very tricky anyhow because it's a smaller sample, and small differences in turnout between big cities and rural areas could make a big difference," Newport said. "Those models sounded scientific, but they were relying on inferior polling at the state level in these difficult to poll states that are toss-up states.”

So the pollsters know Minnesota is a difficult state to poll AND the polls were days old AND the polls were inferior.

They allegedly knew this and still reported the polls presuming they were accurate?

This article is a big CYA.

22 posted on 09/10/2018 2:43:30 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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But will we change our methodology ?

Hell No !

24 posted on 09/10/2018 2:48:02 PM PDT by tomkat
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Mistakes were made... corrections have been made... honest mistakes...yada yada yada...coincidinks... move along...


25 posted on 09/10/2018 2:50:31 PM PDT by Professional
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The guys who did the best just called one thousand people per state.

That is the best way to get an honest outcome.

No data models, no special sauce, no leading questions.

Just one thousand people, chosen at random across the state are you a registered voter and who are you voting for.

26 posted on 09/10/2018 2:51:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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No shit


27 posted on 09/10/2018 2:56:19 PM PDT by Lee25
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“Faulty polling led to inaccurate 2016 data models”

that’s good to know ... i’d hate to think that non-faulty polling could lead to inaccurate 2016 data models ...


36 posted on 09/10/2018 3:49:46 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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Inaccurate due to flat out lying, he means.

Psycho-social manipulation via pseudo-demographics.

Lie hard and steady enough, and the public will fall into line.

There was no accident in what was done.


37 posted on 09/10/2018 3:59:57 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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