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In the Throes Of John Lennon’s Hit Song
Jewish Press ^ | 8/23/'18 | Moshe Feiglin

Posted on 08/23/2018 8:02:43 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

Imagine all the people living life in peace
You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope some day you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people sharing all the world You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

How did we go so quickly from southern Israel being burnt to Palestinian flags in Tel Aviv? From the red alerts in the south to the rainbow of the LGBT surrogacy protests in central Israel?

They are all connected. The key word for understanding all of this madness is “identity.” We are experiencing a war against all identity and all essence. It is a world war, but here in Israel it is the most extreme.

We are in a real war in which hundreds of civilians and soldiers have already been killed. One side is well-organized and well-funded. The other side is confused and doesn’t even understand why it is being attacked.

We left Gaza as part of the Oslo Accords, which, according to its architect (Ron Pundak) were designed to erase Israel’s Jewish identity. It was the tip of the iceberg of a broader war – a war against any type of national identity. Shimon Peres wrote about it explicitly in his book, The New Middle East (p. 73 in the Hebrew edition).

This explains how we have sacrificed 2,000 victims on the altar of “peace” and have reached a mentality in which it is no longer “us” vs. “them.” Instead, there are “those in uniform” and “those who are not in uniform” – from both sides. The uniformed people’s job is to die for those not in uniform – no matter what side the civilians are on (as per Deputy Chief of Staff Yair Golan).

Hundreds of soldiers have already been killed for the enemy. The last one to date is the Givati officer who was killed by a sniper’s bullet. Why? Because for them, any identity at all is a battleground. That explains the all-out battle against the Jewish State Law, which recognizes that Israel has a national identity.

But the war is not only against national identity. There really is no equality problem in Israel. If anybody here is discriminated against, it is the normative Jews. If you want to be accepted to med school in Israel or to receive land to build a home, you would be well-advised to convert to Islam. And if you want your voice to be heard, you would be well-advised to be a homosexual or a radical feminist. If you are just a regular Israeli, you are the last in the pecking order for attention and benefits.

So the next time you hear about a protest in Tel Aviv, or a march in Jerusalem to demand equality, please remember that it is really not about equality, at all. It is a war against identity – all identity.

A war against national identity (“Palestinians”). A war against family identity (radical feminism). A war against gender identity (LGBT). A war against human identity (eating meat is murder).

This is how the IDF has turned into an army bereft of identity, which has no enemy and thus can never defeat him, a la John Lennon’s song, “Imagine.” It is an army that is incapable of dealing with kites, that leaves southern Israel to burn, its citizens in bomb shelters, sacrifices the lives of its soldiers for this “enlightened” paganism and apologizes for accidentally killing two enemy snipers (not that it even has an enemy).

Yes, it is hard to wrap your head around the enormity of this monster. So just remember one thing: It is not about equality. Not about equality for the “Palestinians.” Not about equality for the “Arabs.” Not about equality for the Druze. Not about equality for women. Not about equality for the homosexuals. Even if some of the claims they make are justified, it is not about equality at all. It is a war against one thing: A war against identity.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: identity; israel; johnlenin; johnlennon; multiculti; nihilism; palestinians; pc; rop
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To: Zionist Conspirator

What does the song have to do with the article?


41 posted on 08/23/2018 8:35:34 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: waterhill
I liked when he looked straight into the camera and said to the powers-that-be,

"...I even brought me own cash!"

in response to the American media's questions for him on whether or not he would be deported.
42 posted on 08/23/2018 8:36:30 AM PDT by equaviator (`)
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To: Bommer

Research... Jesus would have dined with Lennon precisely because he was a sinner. And Lennon would have heard the message and submitted precisely because he was a truth-seeker. Of all of the Beatles (ignoring their impact is perilous) he was the one who always refused to submit to political correctness. Wrong often, but honest always. I’d say that’s betted than what we have today in popular culture.


43 posted on 08/23/2018 8:38:51 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It is a very good article. Thanks for posting. The premise totally refutes the erroneous sentiment of the line “Nothing to kill or die for”. People will always find something to kill or die for, even in a ‘one world government’ situation. They will always find something to ‘identify’ themselves as that pits them against those they identify as rivals or enemies. People fight because of sports teams. They fight to humiliate one another, or to try to show superiority of some crazy sort.

Ironically, the one thing that gives hope and promise in the world, and that can lead people to not act on their worst impulsivity, is spirituality and believing that there is a right way and a wrong way to be in the world. That’s contrary to the moral relativism that the liberals who embrace this song believe in.


44 posted on 08/23/2018 8:41:04 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

I had prayed for all of them for years. Most of their music has always given me joy.


45 posted on 08/23/2018 8:41:17 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: MikePipper
If I go to hell,that song will be on the muzak system for eternity ,alternating with Bob Seger’s “Old Time Rock and Roll”.

I agree that Imagine would be one song but the other imo would be the Police's Message In a Bottle, especially the ending where he keeps repeating "sending out and sos" ad infinitum!

46 posted on 08/23/2018 8:42:51 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for a new Pope)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Pelham

Good lord....talk about hate just read the replies here..lordy

I think I enjoyed my youth more than most freepers

Course I was a Stones guy

And I was 4-6 years too young for Indochina

Lennon was certainly quite flawed and naive and self obsessed like most creative folks are.....they are emotional by nature

However I liked a lot of his music.....He was definitely the least likable of the bunch but Paul was actually the stingiest if you listen to his Wings band mates

Beatles and Stones were the soundtrack of my life from second grade till middle school and Stones all the way into early adulthood and I still listen to them 3-4 times a week

I don’t listen to music because I agree with every utterance of the performer

Some are so egregious I turn them off like Springsteen and Dixie C words

But the Beatles have well produced ....very well actually....music thst I think holds up very nicely

Here Comes the Sun...I honestly turned thst in Napster when I got in the tub this morning and cracked the shades....proper

And Lennon’s plastic ono band which was just white album part deaux I like too

But y’all feel free to kick a murdered dead man and his homely widder

Lennon as a homo I doubt that....

Naive and arrogant for sure


47 posted on 08/23/2018 8:44:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (Wake up and quit aping opinions you think will make you popular here)
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To: AlaskaErik

That’s what thousands of acid trips and Yoko Ono does to the mind. It wasn’t until the late 70s when his head started clearing up.


48 posted on 08/23/2018 8:52:24 AM PDT by lionstar
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To: dfwgator

I’ve always thought she was in on the hit. Right next to him and not a scratch.


49 posted on 08/23/2018 8:52:39 AM PDT by Track9 (Dems are vehemently opposed to separating kids from their traffickers.)
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To: AlaskaErik
Most people today don't even know who the Beatles were. I would have used a song that's a little more recent, if I was looking for an example.

The Beatles are enjoying a huge renaissance these days. Lots of young people are into them. The (over-rated) song Imagine is recognized by many all over the world. Some things are classic and stand the test of time.

50 posted on 08/23/2018 8:56:44 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: albie

I agree about the melody and arrangement of that song. They are the hooks that made the song the monster hit it became. The lyrics are juvenile and sappy however, and describe a world that can never exist.


51 posted on 08/23/2018 8:56:48 AM PDT by Avalon Memories ( Proud Deplorable. Proud born-in-the-USA American Dreamer.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Where did lennon ever reveal that he had become a Christian? Never saw anything to that effect anywhere. Please enlighten.


52 posted on 08/23/2018 9:05:47 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

In between bong hits, shootin’ smack, and beating ono.....


53 posted on 08/23/2018 9:08:58 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: alstewartfan

“Imagine” by John Lennon, is a musical masterpiece. But also a song of absolute existential despair! The atheist hymn. It offers no HOPE (hence “Imagine”)! So we counter with a song dedicated to the soon despairing Godless existentialists out there. You know who you are!

https://youtu.be/x7jDuj32Ucg


54 posted on 08/23/2018 9:11:28 AM PDT by FiddlePig (The greatest threat to our sacred liberty is to not value it!)
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To: Track9
I’ve always thought she was in on the hit. Right next to him and not a scratch.

That's been my thought as well. John had changed, and I think Yoko was scared he was going to leave her, she had to protect her investment.

55 posted on 08/23/2018 9:18:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FiddlePig

The least damning thing I could say about it, is it is incredibly naïve.


56 posted on 08/23/2018 9:18:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: AlaskaErik
"People still listen to that Beatles crap?!"

Their stuff doesn't seem to have worn very well with time. Maybe that is why they bought the rights to all Elvis's stuff.

57 posted on 08/23/2018 9:25:08 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: AlaskaErik
People still listen to that Beatles crap?! That was so 45 years ago for me.

That tune is so 1848 to me. The first time I heard it--and I didn't know who sang it until several months later--I understood that it this book set to music.


58 posted on 08/23/2018 9:29:46 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

It’s basically this song.

The Internationale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sh4kz_zhyo


59 posted on 08/23/2018 9:30:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Imagine, oh John Lennon
What happens when you die
If there's no hell or heaven
Nothing above but sky

Imagine all the people
Living without hope

Some folks say you're a dreamer
I know I'm not the only one

Too bad you can't join us
'Cause where you are now
Can't be that fun.

60 posted on 08/23/2018 9:34:59 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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