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Pope Francis changes teaching on death penalty, it’s ‘inadmissible’
Crux ^ | Aug 2, 2018 | Inés San Martín

Posted on 08/02/2018 7:25:10 AM PDT by fwdude

ROME - According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the death penalty now is no longer admissible under any circumstances.

The Vatican announced on Thursday Pope Francis approved changes to the compendium of Catholic teaching published under Pope John Paul II.

“The death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person,” is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church now says on the death penalty, adding that the Church “works with determination for its abolition worldwide.”

This is a departure from what the document, approved under Pope John Paul II in 1992, says on the matter: “Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.”

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More change from this "unchanging" cult.

A few questions:

Will the pope disarm his Swiss Guard since they carry weapons of lethal force?

Will he apologize for the many torture executions committed under the "chair of Peter?"

Where are the leftists now on "separation of church and state?" Oh, how short their memories. I thought you can't legislate morality.

1 posted on 08/02/2018 7:25:10 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

The Catholic Church operates on the “one man, one vote” doctrine. The Pope is the one man who has the one vote.


2 posted on 08/02/2018 7:28:37 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: fwdude

Catholic Derangement Syndrome!


3 posted on 08/02/2018 7:29:11 AM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: notaliberal

Yes, the top Catholic leaders are deranged.


4 posted on 08/02/2018 7:31:38 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

Let me guess what comes next. Abortion is to be considered “humane” and even “necessary” if it allows a woman to better utilize her skills and economic power in a post-rational democratic polity.


5 posted on 08/02/2018 7:32:21 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: fwdude

Is the Pope Catholic?

Oh, right, maybe this was a mistranslation.


6 posted on 08/02/2018 7:33:34 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: fwdude

Your hate is well-known, pal!


7 posted on 08/02/2018 7:33:38 AM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: oblomov

Why not? They’ve all but capitulated on marriage.


8 posted on 08/02/2018 7:34:17 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: notaliberal

When logic is “hate,” you are the one who needs to examine your thinking.


9 posted on 08/02/2018 7:34:56 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

If the churches decides to stop burning people at the stake, that’s their choice.

But if a nation state decides that executing a murderer is a proper way to defend society against further violence from that murderer, I’m not sure why the Church feels it should get involved.


10 posted on 08/02/2018 7:35:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: Redmen4ever

Yup. The Papacy is essentially a dictatorship, and the Pope can steer the Church in any direction he chooses.

Given his radical environmentalism, I am sure he’ll be dropping Humane Vitae soon.

I feel sorry for my fellow Catholics who think the Dubia can stop this by sending strongly-worded letters.


11 posted on 08/02/2018 7:35:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fwdude

You and Jim Acosta......hahahhahaha


12 posted on 08/02/2018 7:36:05 AM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s my point. The RCC has no authority to execute anyone, nor to impose criminal penalties. So, are they seeking to inject their teaching into civil law?

Where are the left on this “breach of separation?”


13 posted on 08/02/2018 7:36:54 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: notaliberal

As long as you don’t bad mouth Jack Chick, we’re good.


14 posted on 08/02/2018 7:38:37 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude
I have two problems with the death penalty:

1. It presumes that our justice system, unlike any other human endeavor, is perfect. Yet we see examples of post conviction evidence exonerating men presumed guilty and sent to prison. There was recently a man in California released after 40 years in prison after a detective reported evidence of his innocence to the DA. Certainly we have executed innocent people.

2. For those who are truly guilty, it usurps any possibility for them to exercise repentance.

That doesn't mean I don't feel disgust at some of the crimes we read about and, from an emotional standpoint, wouldn't feel impelled to render the ultimate punishment. Emotions, however, are not an appropriate guide to sound policy.

15 posted on 08/02/2018 7:41:00 AM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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As long as you don’t bad mouth Jack Chick, we’re good.

As a Catholic I used to get a chuckle out of Jack Chick.

The Vatican has a giant computer tracking every Protestant on the planet? I can tell you from experience that the Catholic Church is not anywhere remotely even close to being that organized.


16 posted on 08/02/2018 7:44:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I know, I was responding tongue in cheek. Although I disagree vehemently with most of Catholic teaching, Chick was a whacko.


17 posted on 08/02/2018 7:50:20 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: TexasKamaAina

If “we can’t be sure” about exacting the death penalty, then we can’t be sure about incarcerating someone for life either.

Most opposition to the death penalty is convenient cover for leniency against any criminals. Look at Mumia. He wasn’t executed and yet there is a massive campaign to have him freed although he executed a police officer in cold blood. Same with Charles Manson. His supporters were numerous, horrifyingly so.


18 posted on 08/02/2018 7:55:54 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

I don’t regard people who have honest disagreements with the Catholic Church as being “anti-Catholic” necessarily.


19 posted on 08/02/2018 8:03:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fwdude
I am a traditional Catholic, and I have long believed that the death penalty is impractical for any number of reasons.

The biggest one is that I have absolutely ZERO faith in the integrity of the U.S. justice system -- including judges, jurors, and especially (in light of what we've seen in Washington over the last 18 months) law enforcement officers and prosecutors. I'll accept an imperfect criminal justice process as an inevitable flaw of the human condition, but the finality of a death sentence has always been a real problem for me.

20 posted on 08/02/2018 8:05:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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