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There's No Such Thing as 'Democratic Socialism'
Am Thinker ^ | July 29, 2018 | Steve Feinstein

Posted on 07/29/2018 9:59:38 PM PDT by upchuck

The darling of the Democratic Party and the liberal media is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez... In their breathless, frenzied rush to anoint Ocasio-Cortez as the coming of the Savior of the Nation, liberals have wholeheartedly embraced her call for “Democratic Socialism.”

... what is this “democratic socialism?”...

What Democrats think it is sounds good: income equality, a fair living wage for everyone, plentiful employment opportunities, quality healthcare coverage for all, affordable college education for all who want it, easy access to affordable, quality housing, and a tax system where the so-called rich pay their “fair share.”

Implicit in the discussion of their prized new order is that everything about the American economy, way of life and culture that is to their liking would remain securely in place, unaffected by the transition to democratic socialism. That, of course, is preposterous. The aspects of daily American life that people like and take for granted -- plentiful food available at well-stocked supermarkets... -- are all made possible by the capitalist/profit-oriented structure of our economic system. If the private business profit incentive is removed, as is the case in a socialist economy, the underlying competitive impetus for providing those goods and services disappears. It’s a zero-sum game: the more “socialism” that is introduced into the economy, the less efficient that economy becomes, because lessened private competition results in fewer choices and a diminishing incentive to increase efficiency or reduce costs.

Proponents of democratic socialism never actually explain where the money needed to pay for all the largess will actually come from. There is a limit to how much simply taxing the rich will produce. Taxes on services and sales transactions would need to be raised to a stifling degree, with a commensurate negative effect on economic activity.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; berniesanders; communism; democraticsocialism; democrats; election2018; election2020; joecrowley; newyork; ocasiocortez; snoflakes; snowflakes; socialdemocracy; socialism; totalitarianism; vermont
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To: Yosemitest

Jeeze, I didn’t expect the Spanish inquisition.


21 posted on 07/30/2018 1:05:24 AM PDT by Bullish (My tagline is here. you just can't see it.)
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To: upchuck

A “democratic socialist” is a rebranded communist. Back in the day, we called ‘em commies, or pinkos. That is how I refer to them still. I once swore an oath to defend my nation, to the death from these animals. That oath still applies.


22 posted on 07/30/2018 1:27:52 AM PDT by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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To: upchuck

To get at the real money they need to confiscate trust funds ...


23 posted on 07/30/2018 1:48:40 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: upchuck

24 posted on 07/30/2018 2:13:32 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Where are the Obama-Creamer audio tapes?)
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To: upchuck

25 posted on 07/30/2018 2:25:27 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Tell that to the Mensheviks

Actually, the Mensheviks, the "minority" were in the majority, they were called that by the Bolsheviks who were a minority. The Bolsheviks were just more ruthless. The problem with concentration of power is that the most ruthless and driven assume power.

26 posted on 07/30/2018 2:34:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: upchuck

Death cures a lot of diseases too.

Socialists are pretty stupid people...


27 posted on 07/30/2018 2:58:47 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: upchuck

>> Proponents of democratic socialism never actually explain where the money needed to pay for all the largess will actually come from <<

Some children think money grows on trees. Marxists know that democratic socialism exchanges largess for Liberty.


28 posted on 07/30/2018 4:00:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Millenials will totally miss the 1984 connection.


29 posted on 07/30/2018 4:33:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That’s why the present alliance between the left and Islam is a win for Islam.
In the end, the head-choppers always win the debate.


30 posted on 07/30/2018 4:34:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: upchuck

European

American leftists take everything they propose from europe where they have social democrats


31 posted on 07/30/2018 4:35:54 AM PDT by bert
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To: Olog-hai

POST OF THE DAY!


32 posted on 07/30/2018 4:36:53 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: PIF
To get at the real money they need to confiscate trust funds ...

Including their own. Oh, wait...

33 posted on 07/30/2018 4:37:37 AM PDT by TADSLOS (If YouÂ’re Gonna Do Me Wrong, Do It Right...)
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To: 1_Inch_Group
20 years too soon, you big socialist dummies.

The Sanders/Ocasio-Cortez wing of the Democrat Socialists is undoing the eight years of "progress" that Barry made for them.

Let them speak!

34 posted on 07/30/2018 4:39:39 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Olog-hai

“It’s socialist thought through and through.”

Actually they are communists wrapped in a socialist package.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/26/630960719/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-democratic-socialists-of-america

An excerpt from the above article.

What DSA members believe
Here’s how one socialist sums up his beliefs:

“I think we just need to realize that the end goal is, ultimately, like social control of the means of production,” said Joe Cernelli, a founding member of that West Virginia DSA chapter. “You know we don’t just want to improve capitalism, we will ultimately want to get rid of it.”

That’s not just his idea; the DSA views capitalism as an oppressive system — “We see it as fundamentally undemocratic,” as DSA National Director Maria Svart put it. Here’s how she sums up what the group wants:

“When it comes right down to it, we believe people need to be able to live a dignified life. I mean, there are certain things that should not be left up to the market,” she said.

Removing some parts of the economy from the forces of the free market, for example. In other words, socialism.

Before Bernie Sanders, There Was This Socialist Candidate
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Before Bernie Sanders, There Was This Socialist Candidate
In the DSA’s ideal economy, some sectors — like health care and utilities — would be government-controlled. Other businesses would be worker-owned, as Svart explains it.

“Let’s say you were negotiating at a bargaining table with workers in a bakery, and the workers said, ‘Look, we want more than a quarter of the bread; we want half of the bread, or we want two-thirds of the bread,’ “ she said. “The socialist would say, ‘Actually, we want the bakery. We want to control it all, for all of our benefit.’ “


35 posted on 07/30/2018 4:57:47 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: upchuck

... what is this “democratic socialism?”...

It is a match challenged ideology.


36 posted on 07/30/2018 4:59:24 AM PDT by pas
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To: upchuck
To cut to the chase:

Democratic Socialism = Socialism

Socialism = Communism

37 posted on 07/30/2018 5:25:17 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: upchuck

I would like to hear an economist who I respect explain the difference between democratic socialism and communism.


38 posted on 07/30/2018 5:46:21 AM PDT by upchuck (We're out for ourselves, we lie when necessary, and money is everything. [Laughs]. ~ CongressmanX)
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To: upchuck

...but there is Democrat Socialism.


39 posted on 07/30/2018 6:05:31 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: Travis McGee

Orwell would be proud...


40 posted on 07/30/2018 6:17:59 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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