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From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered (barf)
nyt ^ | 7/18/2018 | david sanger matthew rosenburg

Posted on 07/18/2018 7:55:06 PM PDT by bitt

WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.

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1 posted on 07/18/2018 7:55:06 PM PDT by bitt
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; azishot; ...

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2 posted on 07/18/2018 7:55:26 PM PDT by bitt (Obama was eloquent with his lies, ..Trump is brutal with his truth!)
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...The shifting narrative underscores the degree to which Mr. Trump regularly picks and chooses intelligence to suit his political purposes. That has never been more clear than this week.
On Monday, standing next to the Russian president in Helsinki, Finland, Mr. Trump said he accepted Mr. Putin’s denial of Russian election intrusions. By Tuesday, faced with a bipartisan political outcry, Mr. Trump sought to walk back his words and sided with his intelligence agencies.

On Wednesday, when a reporter asked, “Is Russia still targeting the U.S.?” Mr. Trump shot back, “No” — directly contradicting statements made only days earlier by his director of national intelligence, Dan Coats, who was sitting a few chairs away in the Cabinet Room. (The White House later said he was responding to a different question.)

Hours later, in a CBS News interview, Mr. Trump seemed to reverse course again. He blamed Mr. Putin personally, but only indirectly, for the election interference by Russia, “because he’s in charge of the country.”..


3 posted on 07/18/2018 7:56:04 PM PDT by bitt (Obama was eloquent with his lies, ..Trump is brutal with his truth!)
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And we have directly interfered in Russian politics and elections since Yeltsin. We interfered in Ukraine -- starting a coup -- and in Libya -- murdering a stabilizing leader who was cooperating with the West. clinton and Obama sent taxpayer-funded STAFF to ALLY Israel to try and defeat Bibi Netanyahu. Openly. Brazenly.

Putin organized a "phishing" scam -- one which the pothead DNC staffers fell for, and the RNC staffers didn't.

4 posted on 07/18/2018 7:59:22 PM PDT by montag813
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Pretty tired of NYT’s twisted priorities and deranged narratives at this point. The entire lot of them are candidates for institutionalization at this point.


5 posted on 07/18/2018 7:59:25 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: bitt

I remember that President Obama chastised, presidential candidate Donald J. Trump that fixing the election was not possible.


6 posted on 07/18/2018 8:00:26 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: bitt

If anyone was really serious that there was foreign election meddling, they’d be trying to fix our own election process, not pointing fingers and screaming. If it smells like BS, there’s not a lot else it could be.


7 posted on 07/18/2018 8:02:22 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Anyone who wishes to remain somewhat on an even-keel basis with the preponderence of information and evidence relating to this whole thing really should listen to Bongino #765.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RenyfHtMVM&feature=em-uploademail

Can start @ 8:00 and speed up to 1.25 or 1.5x. He is somewhat upset today as one of his Secret Service pals was killed the other day.


8 posted on 07/18/2018 8:03:15 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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But of course. The best way to deal with a nuclear superpower, that has faster and more advanced weapons than you, is to call their leader a liar in public. These people are very dangerous.


9 posted on 07/18/2018 8:03:58 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: bitt

What did the Warrior Prince Obama do about it when his intel agencies told him it was happening (on HIS watch)?


10 posted on 07/18/2018 8:05:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Can you summerize please? I only got so many clicks to give.


11 posted on 07/18/2018 8:11:18 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: Jim Robinson

Told them to stand down.


12 posted on 07/18/2018 8:13:38 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: bitt

Nah sis, it’s the deep state coup attempt that has muddied the waters, and don’t ever forget that, or the fake ass dossier and corrupt FBI agents.


13 posted on 07/18/2018 8:19:07 PM PDT by snarkytart
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And, talk about muddled messages, Obama ridiculed the idea that Russia could hack our election.


14 posted on 07/18/2018 8:22:25 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

If the intelligence was highly classified, how did the NYT find out about it? Isn't divulging highly classified information illegal? If not, what purpose does a highly classified designation serve?

15 posted on 07/18/2018 8:22:27 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no gstandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: bitt

What are the examples of interference?


16 posted on 07/18/2018 8:26:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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So if the Russians interfered in the 2016 election, then it happened on Obama’s watch.

And if the CIA knew about it, why didn’t they do anything? Were they ordered not to?

That’s the real scandal here. We’ve seen time and again in politics ... the cover-up is always worse than the initial crime.

We’ve already had the intelligence chiefs testify before Congress that the “Russian interference” had no effect on the election outcome. Now it’s just a question of what Obama and his cronies knew, when they knew it, and what they did about it.


17 posted on 07/18/2018 8:26:45 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Why should he acknowledge their storyline? If it is real Obama should have lectured Putin when it happened. He should say that he will stop all foreign meddlers which also includes illegals voting.


18 posted on 07/18/2018 8:28:28 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: Texas Eagle

This is John Brennan leaking to NY times.... Remember this intelligence by Brennan, Clapper and Comey... Rodgers was some what suspect.. probably more fake news than anything.


19 posted on 07/18/2018 8:29:58 PM PDT by scbison
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The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

If the source is admitting he was part of a disinformation campaign, why should we believe anything he says? How can anyone be sure when he is or isn't engaging in disinformation?

20 posted on 07/18/2018 8:30:15 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no gstandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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