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Former Thai navy SEAL working to rescue soccer team trapped in a cave has died
Business Insider ^ | 07/06/18 | Tara Francis Chan

Posted on 07/06/2018 6:42:23 AM PDT by SES1066

A former Thai Navy SEAL died early Friday while placing oxygen tanks in the cave where a Thai soccer team has been stuck for nearly two weeks. ... The volunteer diver, who has been identified as 38-year-old Saman Kunan, died from a lack of oxygen early around 1 a.m. on Friday morning. ... More than 100 Thai Navy SEALS are working on the rescue mission as well as divers from Australia, the US, UK, China, and other countries.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cave; rescue; thai; thailand
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The Bangkok Post has a different name "Petty Officer 1st class Saman Gunan ..."

"Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends." John 15:13

1 posted on 07/06/2018 6:42:24 AM PDT by SES1066
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To: SES1066

I wonder if they can widen the tunnels or make new tunnels, without risking the kids?


2 posted on 07/06/2018 6:43:31 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: SES1066

Amen...RIP Hero


3 posted on 07/06/2018 6:45:25 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: SES1066
This is a good graphic from the newspaper that shows the difficulties ...


4 posted on 07/06/2018 6:47:18 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Jonty30
I wonder if they can widen the tunnels or make new tunnels

Natural caves (especially limestone) are usually stable as it takes millions of years for them to be carved out by natural underground water. The soft stuff gets removed and the hard stuff remains. If its been that ways for centuries, its not likely to change over short time spans.

Manmade tunnels like for mining, in contrast, are much less stable and prone to cave-in. They don't take into account the natural erosion processes of natural caves, they cut through soft and hard earth, and stress or sudden changes in ground water can cause collapse.

If they try to dig out or widen the tunnels, it could just cause a catastrophic collapse.

5 posted on 07/06/2018 6:53:27 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Jonty30

Drill down like the Chileans did to rescue the miners..................


6 posted on 07/06/2018 6:57:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: Red Badger

See my post 5. Many challenges to drilling down. Challenge one is finding them as drilling down is like shooting blindly. Challenge two relates to my earlier post. If they are not careful, they could make the situation even worse. This is not the rock dry desert of Chile. Its tropical Thailand during monsoon season. Not sure if there is a magic bullet here.


7 posted on 07/06/2018 7:03:11 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Jonty30

Maybe pump the water out...


8 posted on 07/06/2018 7:06:20 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Skywise

They’ve been doing that, too. Problem is it refills pretty quickly. They have to do it continuously to have any effect.


9 posted on 07/06/2018 7:09:08 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SirLurkedalot

“Amen...RIP Hero”

Agree and second the RIP. However, his death was under odd circumstances it seems to me. SEALS, whether US, Thai, whoever, train extensively in scuba gear under all sorts of dangerous scenarios. For a SEAL to run out of air just seems strange. I have not as yet seen any details about his death, maybe in a few days....


10 posted on 07/06/2018 7:16:25 AM PDT by snoringbear (W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: SES1066

They’ve said from the first there is so little oxygen that only 2 rescuers at a time are allowed in where they boys are.

I gather this was not while he was underwater. A SEAL should know better than to run out of oxygen. Always protect yourself so you can protect others.

Wonder if we’re not being told the whole truth about the SEAL since the story has changed from them being a scout troop to now a football team and that they couldn’t swim but now there is a picture of them swimming prior to the cave. Just the facts. How hard is that to report?


11 posted on 07/06/2018 7:17:53 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: snoringbear

Perhaps it was an equipment failure. Sometimes skill and experience are not enough to overcome that.


12 posted on 07/06/2018 7:22:40 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: SES1066

How awful! Praying for the rescuers and the boys. May the kids be rescued and workers be be safe and get these children out alive. Amen.


13 posted on 07/06/2018 7:24:03 AM PDT by Halls (I'm from Texas, I am pro life!)
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This was suggested by another Freeper. A 2 foot wide flexible tube strung through the submerged parts of the cave as I've illustrated here. Put a harness on the kids and after greasing them up real well in order to slide better, pull each one through with a rope. Hope someone there is at least considering the idea. cave
14 posted on 07/06/2018 7:30:52 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: SES1066

Wow, those kids are in deep sh*t. Just heard about this yeasterday. This is disastrous. My prayers for the fallen SEAL, those running the rescue and the kids who hopefully will come out of this alive and remember not to do dumb things like this ever again.


15 posted on 07/06/2018 7:45:22 AM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: Jonty30; All
I wonder if they can widen the tunnels or make new tunnels, without risking the kids?

Partner, I was thinking the same thing kinda like what they have done in South America.

Get the good oil drillers to see how we can drill a tunnel and get these boys out thru the tunnel. If this is possible?

I know that the drilling that was done in Chile was through rock and soil but they did save those guys that were trapped and it looks like these young boys are trapped since it is too dangerous to get them out safely thru the cave.

16 posted on 07/06/2018 7:51:58 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano
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I wonder if they can widen the tunnels or make new tunnels, without risking the kids?

Partner, I was thinking the same thing kinda like what they have done in South America.

Get the good oil drillers to see how we can drill a tunnel and get these boys out thru the tunnel. If this is possible?

I know that the drilling that was done in Chile was through rock and soil but they did save those guys that were trapped and it looks like these young boys are trapped since it is too dangerous to get them out safely thru the cave.

17 posted on 07/06/2018 7:52:15 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano
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To: Jonty30

“I wonder if they can widen the tunnels or make new tunnels, without risking the kids?”

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can they run lines of Oxygen into the boys? Maybe one line
to suck out the bad air?


18 posted on 07/06/2018 8:13:40 AM PDT by BarbM ( President Trump: MAGA and pardon me)
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To: SES1066

More details, and nice scale cross-section details(approx halfway into the article)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44734385


19 posted on 07/06/2018 8:14:36 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: SES1066

Why not tether the boys to a SEAL (the smallest one) and use Brownies Third Lung.

https://www.browniedive.com/

Many non scuba certified recreational swimmers have success with this- hose length 150’.

Or a SEAL tethers a boy with a mini portable oxygen device on the boy which is swapped out every few minutes.

If a SEAL can get in the cave, a tiny slim boy can get out. They have to risk it and begin getting them out.


20 posted on 07/06/2018 9:06:10 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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