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1 posted on 07/05/2018 7:24:45 PM PDT by tkocur
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See https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/07/05/outrage-inducing-ap-story-on-army-discharging-immigrant-recruits-has-some-pumping-the-brakes/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget


2 posted on 07/05/2018 7:25:55 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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GET THEM OUT!! AMERICANS ONLY!!Are we crazy?


3 posted on 07/05/2018 7:25:57 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.)
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Lots of folks get discharged from the military all of the time. Citizen, legal immigrant whatever. Get a drunk driving and you get kicked out.


4 posted on 07/05/2018 7:28:36 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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Didn’t Rome promise citizenship for foreigners who served in their military. Worked out well for them, didn’t it?(/s)


5 posted on 07/05/2018 7:29:52 PM PDT by jim_trent
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The DoD should concentrate on the perverts first...then on the aliens,at least some of whom may be serving honorably.
6 posted on 07/05/2018 7:30:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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I served with a number of nationals and they all served admirably. The Filipino corpsman come to mind. They most definitely EARNED their citizenship.

An old timer who was in prior to WWII said the Corps had entire platoons of Polish speaking machine gunners and they all did a great job.

My ex-wife earned her citizenship while in the Corps.

If they are well vetted and do the job, I don’t have a problem.


8 posted on 07/05/2018 7:30:16 PM PDT by rey
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What made them think that enlisting was a path to citizenship, or allowed them to enlist in the first place?


9 posted on 07/05/2018 7:31:27 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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Without vetting, they NEVER should have been allowed to join in the first place and being a damned ILLEGAL ALIEN, for all the military knows, they could be terrorists.

But under wee barry, NOTHING legal nor right ever mattered.

10 posted on 07/05/2018 7:31:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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As long as they’re purging migrants, execute that jerk, Nidal Hasan, for the 2009 Fort Hood terrorist attack. He needs to kick the oxygen habit.


11 posted on 07/05/2018 7:32:34 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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The 5,000 in one year seems high, and like possibly Obama’s attempt to give so many immigrants the chance in his last year, left the bankground checks sloppy or just not really complete.


15 posted on 07/05/2018 7:37:38 PM PDT by Wuli
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I had a Canadian in my Company that was absolutely the finest soldier in the unit! He gained citizenship through his great ability.


18 posted on 07/05/2018 7:37:56 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2018!)
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The FBI Announces Gangs Have Infiltrated Every Branch Of The Military
10/22/11

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2796474/posts


23 posted on 07/05/2018 7:42:16 PM PDT by donna (California Sanctuary State is the latest method for trapping and trading slaves.)
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I’m of a mixed opinion. When I was in high school, I read Simon Murray’s “Legionnaire” that chronicled his enlistment in the French Foreign Legion. At the end of his enlistment, he was granted French citizenship. But Simon wasn’t married (and I don’t think Legion recruits could be back then) and he had to pass an interview and criminal background check just to win the shot at being a boot who still had to pass basic to be assigned to an FFL unit.

Point: I think that’s how it should be done. Unmarried with no immediate or extended family in the country counting on you as their means of support. And you have to pass a criminal background check, physical, and interview to determine if you’d be a good fit for the armed forces to even get to basic. Pass basic, schools, and fulfill the terms of an honorable enlistment and then you (and you alone) are extended the franchise to become a citizen.


24 posted on 07/05/2018 7:42:30 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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We’ve been doing this for many years. It has worked out well.

I can understand some folks balking at the practice. I’m not convinced it’s worthy of the criticism.

If a foreign national serves with distinction, why not?

We have many people who have gone through these programs. I can’t recall a single instance of treachery.

Look at our own citizens. Only a few have sold secrets, but it’s my take citizens have done this more than foreign nationals.

I’m willing to listen to both sides of the argument. For now I still support it.

If a foreign national is here legally, it’s okay. I won’t support an illegal alien doing it.


25 posted on 07/05/2018 7:46:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

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No big mystery then. This is a security issue. Trump is plugging more holes created by that fairy, Obama.


27 posted on 07/05/2018 7:47:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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The story is bs! The recruits are filing lawsuits and bypassing chain of command. The recruit is still responsible for their status and must spend the money and time to keep their residency status up to date. It is not the military’s responsibility. The army kept sending me to a class to scare me about ever being arrested and the criminal repercussions for lying. One day the CO told me my FBI report said I was lying. I told him the FBI file also has a expungement letter from a judge that I’m not lying. He said “Yep, your right.” never heard anything again. If the recruits refuse to sign the documents pertaining to them being discharge and tell their chain of command they acted in good faith and want to continue to serve or they will write their representatives in congress they will continue.


35 posted on 07/05/2018 7:54:04 PM PDT by the_daug
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No a student visa is not enough...

an immigrant must have an Alien Registration Card AKA a green card...

a foreigner here on a student visa is not an immigrant...


39 posted on 07/05/2018 7:58:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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[Immigration attorney Margaret] Stock said the service members she’s heard from had been told the Defense Department had not managed to put them through extensive background checks, which include CIA, FBI and National Intelligence Agency screenings and counterintelligence interviews. Therefore, by default, they do not meet the background check requirement. […]

The AP interviewed Calixto and recruits from Pakistan and Iran, all of whom said they were devastated by their unexpected discharges. …
Funny how they bury this several paragraphs down.
46 posted on 07/05/2018 8:03:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted

Why doesn't it say members of the Army? Is this fake news?

48 posted on 07/05/2018 8:06:16 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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Eligible recruits are required to have legal status in the U.S., such as a student visa, before enlisting.

So what's the effen problem? They're here legally for G-d's sake! What are they NOT telling us in the article?

52 posted on 07/05/2018 8:12:14 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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