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Instead of a Ban, Transgender Military Recruits Hit Endless Red Tape
New York Times ^ | July 5, 2018 | Dave Philipps

Posted on 07/05/2018 7:41:12 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Nicholas Bade showed up at an Air Force recruiting office on an icy morning in January, determined to be one of the first transgender recruits to enlist in the military.

He was in top shape, and had earned two martial arts black belts. He had already aced the military aptitude test, and organized the stack of medical records required to show he was stable and healthy enough to serve. So he expected to be called for basic training in a month, maybe two at the most.

Six months later, he’s still waiting. And so are nearly all other transgender recruits who have tried to join up since a federal court ordered the Trump administration not to ban them from the military.

The Obama administration announced a plan in 2016 for the armed services to begin accepting transgender recruits at the start of this year. But before the plan could take effect, President Trump abruptly reversed course, announcing on Twitter in July 2017 that the military would “no longer accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity,” because the military “cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail.” Military leaders were given little notice of the change, which has left a wake of controversy and confusion.

Civil rights groups immediately sued, claiming that a blanket ban was unconstitutional, and the courts blocked the new rules. Three federal judges hearing separate cases issued injunctions against the ban last fall that cleared the way — in theory at least — for transgender recruits to start enlisting on Jan. 1.

Since then, scores have applied — but it appears almost none are being accepted.

The Defense Department refused requests for statistics on transgender enlistments.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; military; secdefmattis; transgender; transgenderban; trumpdod
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To: reaganaut1
I have a hard time believing that "Scores" of transgender people have applied to the military. But, I suppose there's little way of proving otherwise.

Also, that the article needs to point out that the person "organized the stack of medical records required to show he was stable and healthy enough to serve" makes me question that, as well.

Just like those who talk about how rich, smart, or honest they are, people who tell you how well-adjusted they are....generally aren't.

21 posted on 07/05/2018 8:04:20 AM PDT by wbill
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To: freedumb2003
Transgendered have a suicide rate of 40%.

They used to claim it was because society didn't cater to their fantasy, but the last four years of the ObaMao administration was spent doing exactly that and the rate did not go down.

Serving in the military is NOT an entitlement. Why is that so difficult to understand?

22 posted on 07/05/2018 8:08:58 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: reaganaut1

Good news for a change.


23 posted on 07/05/2018 8:09:26 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Leaning Right; wbill

Wouldn’t a stack of medical records indicate that something was NOT right?


24 posted on 07/05/2018 8:10:35 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: reaganaut1

Think about it just in terms of costs. An average soldier, sailor, airman or marine costs millions of dollars over his time of service when you figure in training, housing, equiping, paying, deploying, etc. I remember seeing a stat that by the time a recruit shows up for basic training, the service is already something like $70,000 in the hole. I’m not even talking about special forces costs, just the standard variety. The military knows suicide rates for these people are high. They also know that they come with more general mental health issues. The services want to know that they will be able to recoup their costs over the life of the contract. In that way, the military is similar to an insurance company in the way it tries to mitigate loss.


25 posted on 07/05/2018 8:10:54 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: onedoug

Our military was in Iraq for years, and; is still in Afghanistan. Two Special Forces teams jumped in one led the northern alliance and the other the old head of the country. They ran the Taliban out in days not years. Another member of our US armed forces conventional military had it’s infantry on the ground. All they did was dig fox holes and such.


26 posted on 07/05/2018 8:13:49 AM PDT by Lumper20 (w)
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To: reaganaut1

Enough of the make believe time. Those folks are mentally ill. The military is not the place for their Psychodramas to be played out.


27 posted on 07/05/2018 8:15:50 AM PDT by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: reaganaut1

Take a young man or woman ... with a mental disorder ... in the prime of their fitness and energy. Do not treat the mental disorder; allow it to progress. Instead teach them to hide, to hunt, and to harm for sake of the mission. Then give them access to military secrets and the members who who hold those secrets. What could possibly go wrong as the mental disorder goes into full bloom? The military does not run on "feelings", nor should it.


28 posted on 07/05/2018 8:22:08 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: reaganaut1
Regulations for transgender recruits require them to show that they have been mentally and physically stable for 18 months before enlisting.

If they think they are "transgender" then they are not mentally stable. Next case.

29 posted on 07/05/2018 8:23:18 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: onedoug

> The military cannot be ready to fight in having to deal with this flotsam. <

I read an article where the author argued that our decisive win in WW2 gave the US an unhealthy superiority complex. Since then we have thrown caution to the wind.


30 posted on 07/05/2018 8:23:21 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: reaganaut1

Trans people are mentally unstable and should not be allowed in the armed forces with big guns and rockets and stuff. What is the problem with that?


31 posted on 07/05/2018 8:25:13 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: reaganaut1

The military is not a social experiment. Also it’s absurd that the taxpayers should have to pay for this elective surgery that does not enhance their ability to kill people and break things - the military’s real purpose. Let them pay for that themselves - and not in the military where they don’t belong.


32 posted on 07/05/2018 8:33:49 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: bk1000

This loser has medical records that show it to be stable? What sort of quack doctor would find that??? Possibly a tranny doctor.


33 posted on 07/05/2018 8:34:07 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Cmp?)
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To: reaganaut1

I am no trans and hit a bazillion red tape to get in the Air Guard checking on my full medical history

If you are trans and take hormones, then yeah, you will be checked for your own physical and mental safety

Nothing mean about this, it is how government has always worked, but liberals all of a sudden hate government and red tape they impose when it impedes them

Just look at AirBND made by flaming anti Trump homos pushing socialism yet bypassing all zoning laws and hotel regs to suit their millions in profits as electronic slum lords


34 posted on 07/05/2018 8:34:59 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Leaning Right
WW2 should have had the opposite effect. I read "If you survive" yesterday, couldn't put it down. The slaughter our troops suffered was atrocious. Riflemen would get 6 weeks of training and be shipped to the front and would get blown to bits their day on the line. Units suffering 170% casualties. Constant friendly fire. People dying so fast that it was impossible to keep track, or bury the dead.

The military is done for. The 75th Rangers and 101st Airborne opened to women a couple months ago. Gender integration of combat arms is going full steam and nobody is stopping it, not Trump, not Mattis. But regardless of what Teump does to fix it, the next dem will reverse back. Dems of the past, Carter, Clinton, bad as they were, left the social control and structure of the military alone for the most part. Under Obama we got the removal of DADT, women in combat arms, trannies, not to mention thousands of deaths from restrictive ROE. Now that the libs have decided that thr military is a social playground for them to eff over, we're done.

35 posted on 07/05/2018 8:42:15 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: reaganaut1

Mental cases are prima facie unfit for positions of responsibility.


36 posted on 07/05/2018 8:46:03 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: All

I once read a letter written by a Transgender who underwent the surgery describing the recovery process....It was like something out of a horror novel and I couldn’t help but feel sorry for this person because he/she/whatever quickly realized what a horrible mistake it was and was trying to warn others.


37 posted on 07/05/2018 8:47:42 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: reaganaut1

The military does NOT need to coddle those with mental disorders.

While stating that homosexuality is NOT a mental disorder is debatable, but transgenderism is demonstrably a mental illness.


38 posted on 07/05/2018 9:09:31 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: wmileo

This is the only reason they are wanting to enlist. To have someone else pay.


39 posted on 07/05/2018 9:51:29 AM PDT by pas
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To: akalinin

Why would standing matter to today’s judges. They make the rules up as they go along.


40 posted on 07/05/2018 9:52:38 AM PDT by pas
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