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1 posted on 07/03/2018 6:19:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Interesting since I’m reading Origin of the Species at the moment. So far, everything in it makes sense (that animals naturally breed to improve their “stock”) so we’ll see where it goes.


2 posted on 07/03/2018 6:21:28 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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Hmmm...."settled science?" I think not.

This is an illustration about how real science is an ongoing quest rather than a destination.

3 posted on 07/03/2018 6:21:55 AM PDT by Lysandru
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Well they’ve only had 150 years or so to be wrong.

When they get up to a millenium or two I’ll reassess.


5 posted on 07/03/2018 6:23:41 AM PDT by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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“...nine out of 10 species on Earth today, including humans, came into being 100,000 to 200,000 years ago...”

So? How many species that we know of from the Cambrian “came into being” inside a very small timeframe? The entire history of life on this planet is full of sudden explosions of life, as well as sudden erasures of entire ecosystems. This has been known for years; indeed, the Cambrian “explosion” has actually been called that for decades. There have been a number of articles about this “discovery” over the last month or so, and they all distort the finding so as to present it as something never before seen that challenges everything science knows about the development of life.


6 posted on 07/03/2018 6:25:14 AM PDT by Little Pig
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I generally feel that Evolution is a cult which first establishes its Conclusion and holds on to it come what may. Any new evidence is shoe-horned in to support the sacred Conclusion.

But I admit: here, at least, a scientist wrestled with uncomfortable evidence and ended up admitting to the Conclusion that it pointed to. Good for him!

That actually feels like Science.


7 posted on 07/03/2018 6:27:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If you beleive the dog, then take his advice.)
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almost all animal species, as well as humans, showed up on the stage of human history at the same time.

Gee...I wonder how THAT happened?

11 posted on 07/03/2018 6:28:41 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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always a glitch,

“In the past, researchers studied DNA in the nucleus of cells, which differs markedly from one species to another. But the new study analyzed a gene sequence found in mitochondrial DNA. (Mitochondria, the powerhouses of cells, produce about 90 percent of a cell’s chemical energy.) Although mitochondrial DNA is similar across all humans and animals, it also contains tiny bits that are different enough to distinguish between species. This difference allows researchers to estimate the approximate age of a species.

The researchers analyzed these gene sequences in 100,000 species and concluded that the event—either the simultaneous appearance of humans and most animals, or a population crash—occurred about 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. That proposal challenges the bedrock of evolutionary theory.”

pdf study link: 30 pgs (thankfully some pics and lots of references...LOL)

https://phe.rockefeller.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Stoeckle-Thaler-Final-reduced.pdf


12 posted on 07/03/2018 6:28:52 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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Forget evolution. Some genius needs to explain to us how the first cell was created out of "primordial soup". Then we can move on to natural selection, then evolution.


14 posted on 07/03/2018 6:29:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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Initial Article

https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html


15 posted on 07/03/2018 6:30:21 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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Sedimentary rock is what it is, as is the concept of uniformitarianism.


18 posted on 07/03/2018 6:31:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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I read an article about this last month and am still laughing.

I also lead a Trail Life USA troop. As Troopmaster, I have the honor of starting each meeting with a short discussion we call Wisdom of the Wild.

Here’s what I shared with the boys in our troop that week.

The psalmist wrote As for God, his ways are perfect. His word is flawless.

Yesterday, I read an about something that has scientists perplexed.

In a massive genetic study, research scientists have proved that 90% of animal species appeared at right around the same time, about the same time as humans appeared.

Hmmmm. Wonder how that could have happened?

So, one of the scientists invented a way of separating DNA to some specific genes and some way of determining the age of when the certain genes first appeared. He likened it to counting rings on a tree.

But, since he has no control data, I don’t think his conclusion is absolutely correct.

Their conclusion is that 90% of species occurred at roughly the same time, 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

Try this on for size…

And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

So, on the fifth day, God created birds and fish. On Day six, he turned his attention to mammals. Animals and man.

The biblical account is clear that God created the earth in six literal 24 hour days. That happened about 6000 years ago.

These scientists believe that earth is 65 billion years old. That’s just a letter of faith for them and that something occurred to kill off everything and start over with evolution all happening at the exact same time 100,000 or so years ago.

This is a quote from the article
As to how that could have happened, it’s unclear. A likely possibility is the occurrence of a sudden event that caused large-scale environmental trauma and wiped out majority of the Earth’s species.
“Viruses, ice ages, successful new competitors, loss of prey — all these may cause periods when the population of an animal drops sharply,” explains Jesse Ausubel, director of the Program for the Human Environment.
Such times give rise to sweeping genetic changes across the planet, causing new species to appear. However, the last time such an occurrence took place was 65 million years ago, when an asteroid hit the Earth and killed off the dinosaurs and half of all other species on the planet.
End quote
One of the scientists was really shaken by their conclusions because it goes against everything he believes. He said “This conclusion is very surprising, and I fought against it as hard as I could.”
I appreciate his science and the discovery of DNA, for it does truly prove the biblical account of creation is correct. I wish these scientists would include it in their conclusions.
Then they would be able to walk worthy


25 posted on 07/03/2018 6:42:58 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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Old news, but this is a particularly slanted rant. Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 07/03/2018 6:49:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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The study's most startling result, perhaps, is that nine out of 10 species on Earth today, including humans, came into being 100,000 to 200,000 years ago."

And that ignores the countless extinct fossil species.

32 posted on 07/03/2018 6:49:35 AM PDT by dirtboy
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That is going to leave a mark.


36 posted on 07/03/2018 6:56:04 AM PDT by GingisK
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No. What the study showed was that there was a huge "bottleneck" about 100-200,000 years ago, which affected many species. A bottleneck occurs when most of the members of a species die off, leaving only a few individuals to breed and continue the species. The "origin" of each species--in other words, when a population differentiates enough to be called a separate species from the previous species--is well documented in both the paleontological and the molecular records. For example:

In this phylogenetic tree, we can see that the ancestor of bears "split" into the raccoon branch and the bear branch about 31 million years ago, and so forth. This speciation is a distinct mechanism from population bottlenecks.

41 posted on 07/03/2018 7:02:41 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I thought science was always right. And never biased or corrupt!!


44 posted on 07/03/2018 7:10:44 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho) to sun spots)
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Unsettled science unsettles scientists again.


52 posted on 07/03/2018 7:24:31 AM PDT by katana
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It’s funny how every time science comes up with the newest theory of the history of life, the old theories are discarded like yesterdays trash, the new ones are held up as absolute truth, and anyone who disputes the new theory is ignorant. And despite the best efforts of scientists, the theories get closer and closer to the Story of Genesis.


56 posted on 07/03/2018 7:33:25 AM PDT by robel
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Hence why the Evolution has long been a THEORY, not a fact!


59 posted on 07/03/2018 7:57:59 AM PDT by cranked
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If life is only 200,000 years old, the Genesis chronology is every bit as incorrect as it would be if life has been here for a billion years.


60 posted on 07/03/2018 7:59:22 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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