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Pence tells Central American leaders to do more to stem illegal immigration to the U.S.
LA Times ^ | 28 Jun 2018 | Patrick J. McDonnell and Tracy Wilkinson

Posted on 06/29/2018 2:03:40 AM PDT by blueplum

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To: MUDDOG

A guy on TV made a great point, most of the asylum claims are made by people who get caught crossing illegally.

Just if they get caught.


41 posted on 06/29/2018 5:29:43 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: blueplum

The issue is especially bad in regards to Guatemala. Isn’t a lot of MS-13 gang members from that impoverished country?


42 posted on 06/29/2018 5:32:30 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Gen.Blather

That’s funny right there.

My family is the least of my problems in that area.

They’d drag some guy I smoked pot with back in 1976 out, or some women I spent a weekend of debauchery with back in the 80s and that would be the end of my political career.

But it would be a spectacular flame out.

L


43 posted on 06/29/2018 5:32:57 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: BeauBo

That’s an excellent point.

We have rules on how to apply for asylum, and it doesn’t include sneaking over the border and making the claim when you get caught!

So we could deny them asylum simply on procedural grounds.


44 posted on 06/29/2018 5:37:04 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

“we could deny them asylum simply on procedural grounds.”

I think that is what President Trump is pushing for, when he recently proposed that illegal crossers be sent back, without a judge being involved. Such procedures have been used before, but the Left has created a web of rules and court rulings that have created the unnatural condition we were in - unable to legally control our own border.

As you mentioned, AG Sessions deserves credit for his work on many of the traps and snares constructed by the Left to impede immigration control - closing the amnesty loophole will probably be a big impact just by itself. There have been a lot of things that General Sessions has done that have escaped wide notice, but the backlog of cases that have overwhelmed the immigration system (a la Cloward Piven) has crested, and finally begun to recede.

This administration really knows what is doing. The really big things that need to be done though, require Congress. A merit-based immigration system, wall funding, e-verify, welfare restrictions and enforcement authority would dramatically improve the situation. That is the big deal on immigration. I hope the Republicans (Conservatives) do well in the mid terms, so the President can get a deal through Congress during his first term.


45 posted on 06/29/2018 5:54:11 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: blueplum

I like the sound of President Pence.

He’s certainly Presidential and even my family in Mexico agrees. LOL!


46 posted on 06/29/2018 6:00:46 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: RayChuang88

“Isn’t a lot of MS-13 gang members from that impoverished country?” (Guatemala)

MS-13 is centered in El Salvador, but it is also big in Guatemala, as are Mexican drug cartels. All three of the Central American countries now flooding immigrants into the USA (Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras) are ridden with criminal gangs. They are among the most dangerous on Earth, in terms of violent crime.


47 posted on 06/29/2018 6:07:19 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Sounds great!

I think after the midterms, Trump will really lower the boom, and not just on immigration.


48 posted on 06/29/2018 6:08:03 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Huaynero

And I wonder how much of that money is actually from guys digging ditches, cutting grass or doing someone’s laundry. It’d be interesting to see how much of that money is coming directly from the checks that these people are getting from the taxpayer. It’s common that they’ll sell their EBT cards for actual cash. Well, if you have multiple people, in one house, getting EBT/SNAP every month, isn’t too hard to turn one of those cards into an ATM card that you use to fund the family back home.

And then you have them feeding their families back home as well .... https://nypost.com/2013/07/21/ny-food-stamp-recipients-are-shipping-welfare-funded-groceries-to-relatives-in-jamaica-dominican-republic-and-haiti/

Lots of people talk about the rebirth of Dearborn, Mich with all the muslims. What they don’t tell you is that the majority of money is given to them through all the refugee programs and obviously, through Birthright Citizenship, once they pop out a kid in a Detroit hospital. Then the family gets a tidal wave of benefits and cash. Add to that, that one man will have 4 or 5 wives, all collecting checks and benefits, who knows what that math is.

http://www.fuckyourpoliticalcorrectness.com/dennis-michael-lynch-explores-culture-shift-happening-dearborn-michigan/

Not only are we funding illegals and fraudulent refugees here, we’re taking care of their families in their home countries. And RINOs like Ryan are more than happy to do it.

North of Atlanta, in the Cumming area, lots of companies have moved in to get away from the traffic in Atlanta. Using H1B visa’s they bring in a lot of tech folks from India. They show up with their ENTIRE family. Put their kids in school. But, what else do they do? They bring their parents over. In Georgia, once you hit 62, you’re exempt from school taxes, so they put the homes in their parents name. Thus, they put a few kids in the school for free. County finally caught on, but nothing was done to the families that were committing the fraud. They should have been given 30 minutes to pack as much shit as they could and put on plane with a, Never To Return Stamp in their passport.


49 posted on 06/29/2018 6:46:58 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: mrsmel

Yes Yes and Yes

Legal ... The IRS has to implement the taxation once the law is codified

Constitutional ... Congress has to pass the tax law that requires the tax and authorizes the IRS to do so

Pragmatic ... None whatsoever

However .............

Congress will never do it, because they want open borders and unlimited immigration for their donors, the Chamber of Commerce, Big Business and down the road, the Dem’s want the voters. Throw on top of that, Western Union, et al, have some deep pockets and good lobbyists that have and will fight this and when no one is looking, pass the envelope full of cash to the appropriate Congressperson or have them on video doing stuff they aren’t supposed to be doing.

And all the while, you, me and everyone else gets left paying the bills.


50 posted on 06/29/2018 6:54:15 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: BeauBo

It’s too bad that these days, we can’t just do like President Eisenhower did, just round ‘em up and ship ‘em home.


51 posted on 06/29/2018 6:59:58 AM PDT by mrsmel (I wonÂ’t be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: qaz123

And getting the diseases, watching our neighborhoods turn into toilets, being forced to ramp up security measures against the criminals who manage to slip the system, etc. Lord I hate those people (the ones who foist this onto us while they live apart and above it).


52 posted on 06/29/2018 7:03:00 AM PDT by mrsmel (I wonÂ’t be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: mrsmel

Forgot about the diseases. The ones that were all but eradicated from this country.

And you nailed it on the head. The decision makers aren’t the ones living with the consequences of this. They live behind their walls and are surrounded by security. If their property taxes go up a few hundred bucks in one year to pay for all the “new” students, no big deal for them. They make enough not to care and their kids don’t go to those schools.


53 posted on 06/29/2018 7:12:19 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

And the diseases we never even had before! Hussein deliberately imported people with diseases, like he was determined to make sure that people who don’t engage in high risk behaviors, get the diseases anyway. Just evil.


54 posted on 06/29/2018 7:14:57 AM PDT by mrsmel (I wonÂ’t be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Fresh Wind

“Pence tells Central American leaders to do more to stem illegal immigration to the U.S.”

Why should they? Would we try and stop the exodus of our filthy underbelly?


55 posted on 06/29/2018 7:27:45 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Lurker

I like the way you think!!


56 posted on 06/29/2018 8:54:43 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: trebb

trebb, regrettably you are part of the problem. There have been countless proposals that would stem and end the illegals coming. Many of those proposals are and have been posted at FR. Your post is accusatory of United States policy having generated the illegal migration. This accusation is a lie. Look to the illegals home leadership The illegals should fix their countries themselves. The United States cannot save the world but mark my words ... the United States is slow to anger but the United States can be angry. You would not like the United States when we become angry


57 posted on 06/30/2018 12:49:38 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: Bonemaker

You have missed the point. It would be useless to explain the point to someone that blames the United States


58 posted on 06/30/2018 12:59:07 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: blueplum

Kudos blueplum. Your thread exposed a few Blame America First people. My compliments


59 posted on 06/30/2018 1:09:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: trebb

Saw where your homepage said you served for 20+ years and you joined FR before I did. I pray I read your post incorrectly


60 posted on 06/30/2018 1:19:37 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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