Posted on 06/13/2018 6:24:46 AM PDT by Wuli
BEIJINGChina is setting its sights on a key role in North Koreas future, seeking to be part of any peace treaty, weapons inspections and economic assistance, after emerging as a surprise beneficiary of the summit between the U.S. and North Korean leaders.
Chinese officials are expected to stake out their positions for a post-summit North Korea when U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo visits Beijing on Thursday to discuss the outcome of the talks between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
At the top of Chinas agenda are an easing of the economic sanctions that pressured North Korea into negotiations and working on ways to provide security guarantees to give Pyongyang the confidence to dismantle its nuclear program.
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You are of course correct but then there are the young women
Why be concerned with territorial gains when you can wear new lipstick, have chic hair and walk about in Daisey Maes?
“A case in point is point of sale transactions on smart phones. The young buyer has a bank account that provides automatic payments with an ap. That ap incorporates the capability to deal with the transaction aps of say McDonalds. The ap is called up and then the McDonalds or Webdys or whqat ever ap is selected and up pops a menu. The desired items are ordered and then picked up. on pickup, the vendor is payed and the transaction is closed.”
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That is being done in the US,at least it is at Dunkin Donuts-——I’ve seen it.
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That sounds really great if you want the government building detailed list of your food amounts, frequency, calorie and fat, and socially responsible sources. Not that they would ever misuse the data Beyond Simple statistical research. Especially when they told us low fat would improve the nation’s health
Russia following the USSR collapse was a mess in the 1990s and is now back to authoritarianism and playing old games. The greater part of the former Soviet space: including Ukraine and others ...is not in good shape. Although some countries show a lot of promise like Kazahkstan and now Armenia with their new Prime Minister.
But with lessons learned and strong Western leadership and moral support from allies, things could be different for North Korea.
You are correct but the scale is so small it is not meaningful. Yet
Yesterday I was witness to a very important change. After locking my van door I walked toward the entry to Walmart. I pulled out my trusty I phone and pulled up the Walmart ap. I checked to be sure it recognized my account and went to get a buggy. To my surprise, the blue phone holders had all been removed.
The greeter pointed to a sign: Walmart no longer has the auto swipe and pay and check out capability. The test in this store is over.
So Walmart recognized the potential and tested and some like me embraced the technology but apparently most did not.
China wants to make sure its part of the rich rewards that will be doled in loans and corporate investments in NKOR. But be careful. What Kim givith Kim may taketh.
Thanks to BobP
The President is a highly-skilled and successful dealmaker ... and he knows what he wants ... and he loves America. Doesn’t get much better than that!
I heard something interesting, and considering the Kim Clement prophecies of a united Korea...
Consider what is being done as a wooing of NK away from China. We are quietly building up Taiwan as well. And Working with Russia, a new gas pipeline to and through North Korea. Will be some serious blockage of Chinas global expansion plans.
Actually, China in close association with the trading pardner South Korea will together develop the commercial and industrial capabilities of North Korea. The relation is not great but it will grow
I am concerned about the fake news surely to come of the 1,000 room Trump tower to be constructed in Ponyang before the 2020 election.
“China is evolving politically to be acceptable to the majority thqat is young and prospering and intent on continuing to prosper.”
No, politically, China is as unchnaged under the current Comunist leaders as it was under the old ones. Just ask the Hong Kongers who know the noose is gradually doing away with the political differences they were supposed to be keeping.
Free to travel? Yes. And many other purely economic related things? Yes. But to the dictators those are privileges granted and not rights and depending on a Chinese persons poltiical activity subject to be taken away at any time.
The state control, propaganda control, secret political police, political prisoners, and everything else a political monopoly under dictators remains. In real terms there has been ZERO POLITICAL liberalization in China.
Xi has recently got his desire to remain in charge as long as he wants rubber stamped by the rubber stamp “peoples” Congress.
“The old men are dying out and their hold is loostening.”
Age has nothing to do with and the “young” men like Xi have tbe same political mindset as the old ones. They just dress things up better today.
“Not a fan of the current South Korean govt either. Total lefties.”
Not just “Lefties”. Moon and members of his administration have history and links with pro-North Korea political orgs in South Korea.
“Consider what is being done as a wooing of NK away from China.”
I don’t care, nor see it in our interests, to be great friends with an unreprent brutal political dictatorship that wants to rule all of Korea, on the theory we might woo the bastards away from China. The price we would pay, in the end, for real success in that will be the freedoms and Liberties of the South Koreans.
Trust me. The Kim dynasty was brought up and mentored by the Soviets, not China. China entered the Korean war not out of true friendship with the Kims, bus only because 1950s China did not want 1950s U.S. sitting on its border, which it rightly imagined would have been the case if it had not intervened on North Korea’s behalf. China does not want to see that today either, so China’s goal is to help Kim make North Korea look more like China, economically, while remaining the dictatorship it is, not changing politically,
Trust me. Kims politics and thinking does not come out of China, no matter how much it has come to depend on China economically over the years. The Kims are more like Stalin than anyone else. Economic development is not more likely to turn North Korea away from dictatorship and into democracy anymore than it has China.
Alternatively, Xi is now in a powerful position to make changes toward controlleed modernization of China.
He is faced with a problem of both extreme modern societal elements and extreme backward, fundamentally very old elements.
The twain does meet. I watched a series on China and in the Tibet episode the populace celebrated a very very ancient erection of a huge maypole like holiday structure.
One of those involved was clad in Jeans and a Stetson Hat. I could only wonder how the jeans and especially the very American Western Straw Stetson made it to the far far outreaches of Tibet and became the ordinary clothing of a local cattleman.
Alls that economic modernization in China has done politically is give the dictatorship even more powerful technological and social manipulation tools for managing its dictatorial rule. When it relazes something in its control it is only done to see who will take advantage of it, and then with those idiots identified, they begin to restore control, even if it takes a different approach to doing it. All economic matters are privileges not rights.
“China is evolving politically”
The social pressures are there for democratization, but the the political reality is growing centralization (reverting recently to one man rule) and increasing police state surveillance and repression.
Already the most technically advanced police state on Earth, China is installing cameras everywhere and monitoring all electronic communication, screened by new artificial intelligence programs. They are taking the genetic information of their people (particularly minority groups like uighurs and Tibetans) on a wholesale basis. They have begun a massive program of compiling files and scoring ALL individuals, based on their political compliance (and increasingly tying all kinds of rewards and punishments to their score), and they are embarking on a five year plan to nationalize all religious organizations under direct communist party control.
People think hes a real estate genius. No. Hes a genius in human relations.
Be careful, some people on FreeRep don’t like the truth. Some think that just because Trump is in office the myth that China is “liberalizing”, politically is no longer a myth sold by the New World Order folks (the Bush-Billary duopoly), that China has by some miracle changed, politically.
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