Posted on 06/08/2018 6:09:42 PM PDT by huckfillary
I dont wish to be unkind. But facts are facts. A victim is someone who has something bad happen to him, totally against his will and without any say or control in the matter.
Suicide does not happen to someone. Its something one does to oneself.
Most of us are drowning in virtue-signaling and political correctness so much so that we cant even see it.
It seems cool to mourn people who kill themselves even though you never knew them. How do we know we would have liked and admired them had we even known them personally?
Consider some of the facts we do know about them.
Anthony Bourdain was a drug addict. He said nasty things about the Food Network for years, conveying bitterness he never became quite the celebrity chef that someone like Bobby Flay was. He joked on CNN about wanting to poison President Donald Trump. Can you imagine joking about poisoning Barack Obama? Yes, Bourdain was a productive person who accomplished a lot of things. But he might not have been your best friend, had you known him. He certainly would not have been mine.
Ditto for Kate Spade. To hear her sister tell it, Kate was Bipolar and refused to get professional help. Can you imagine having the world at your fingertips and refusing to get help for a problem thats highly manageable and treatable? Everyone insists mental illness is a disease. Would you respect someone who refused to treat their cancer or diabetes, particularly if they had access to the best treatment available?
Anthony Bourdain left behind an 11-year-old daughter. Kate Spade left behind a 13-year-old daughter. They abandoned their children. Are we so politically correct that we cant identify the raw cruelty in these actions? They didnt have to do it. They could at least have waited until their kids reached young adulthood. Would you admire a person who dropped their child off on a public street and forgot about them? If so, what are you to think of a parent who literally leaves life before the child had a chance to grow up?
I have talked to hundreds of suicidal people who have told me, I couldnt do that to my child. Some wouldnt even do it to their dog or their cat. Why dont we applaud and celebrate these unsung heroes, instead of fawning over celebrities we never met and pretending theyre victims?
Not all successful people are miserable. In fact, most are not. We dont hear about the happy ones because well, because I guess most of us dont find them interesting. I find happy people interesting. Im much more interested in health and life than despair and gloom. Celebrity suicides are sad and worth pausing to understand. So are non-celebrity suicides. But if we make them the most important attribute of success, we become negative and cynical, and theres already far too much of that in the world.
Suicide is a choice. I dont mean to deny theres suffering. Suffering deserves a certain amount of empathy, compassion and understanding, to be sure. But misery and pain are not accomplishments. And killing yourself should not make you more of a celebrity than you were when you were alive.
Stop looking at people who make sad, tragic or irrational choices as victims. Theyre not victims. We all make our choices, and its the people suicide victims leave behind who need your compassion and understanding the most.
They are victims when they’ve been given drugs that cause suicidal behavior.
The victims are the people left behind who loved the person that took their own life. The person who commits suicide no longer feels pain, but for the people who cared about them, their suffering has just begun. They get to suffer for both.
I think this is an incredibly mean-spirited post.
Suicide may not just ‘happen’ to someone; but something has happened before which leads to it.
I can’t imagine the misery that would lead someone to do this, especially if they are leaving behind young children. I can only thank God that I’ve never been brought to that point, and pray for those who have.
Suicide is badass.
People who take their own lives are lost in a mental illness. To say otherwise is ignorance. Suicide leaves those behind with devastation, guilt, and shame.
If you have not personally experience the devastation it’s probably best if the responses aren’t so smug
It’s a typical sociopathic post. The inability to feel empathy is the spirit of our age. The suffering that leads to suicide is a non-issue as long as those casting judgment have never personally experienced it.
Robin Williams is the one case I can understand, from all reports I heard, he was in pretty bad shape.
The theme from "M*A*S*H" (the movie).
He claims to be an objectivist...a Randian, those who are enthralled by a godless self centered manner of living.
True words
The author is a follower of Ayn Rand.....objectivism is a self centered, Godless philosophy that scoffs at altruism
I heard a guy describe suicide as a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
There are still many people who can feel compassion for someone who is so lost that they will kill themselves.
You are correct that this post is ‘sociopathic’. It’s driven by the ego of the person who posted.
“Can you imagine having the world at your fingertips and refusing to get help for a problem thats highly manageable and treatable? “
Happens routinely with the mentally ill.
This Hurd is just pushing ‘objectivist’ dogma.
Well said — both of you.
” Indeed, nearly every bad situation we find ourselves in are the result of irrational thinking and poor choices. “
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Not so !!!!!!!!
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Of course not.
Egregious abuse of language, usually for nefarious ends.
Ayn Rand was an intellectually brilliant woman whose blind spot was her atheism - and that’s an ENORMOUS blind spot.
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