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'Didn't you burn down the White House?' Trump uses War of 1812 to justify Canada as security threat
Montreal Gazette ^ | 06/07/2018 | Tristin Hopper

Posted on 06/07/2018 9:23:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

During a testy phone call with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, U.S. president Donald Trump reportedly cited the War of 1812 in order to justify seeing Canada as a security threat.

“Didn’t you guys burn down the White House?” he told Trudeau, according to sources cited by CNN.

The reason for the call was the U.S. imposition of tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum, which Trump has justified on national security grounds.

The new tariffs, announced last week, sparked disbelief from across the political spectrum in Canada. For more than a century, the United States has had no problem building military equipment out of Canadian raw materials. Most famously, the country’s first atomic bombs were fuelled in part by Canadian uranium.

“Canada is a secure supplier of aluminum and steel to the U.S. defence industry, putting aluminum in American planes and steel in American tanks,” Trudeau said last week. “That Canada could be considered a national security threat to the United States is inconceivable.”

Minister of Foreign Affairs Chrystia Freeland made the same argument in a CNN appearance, saying “do you really think Canada … represents a national security threat to you?”

Trudeau was apparently arguing Canada’s loyalty directly to the U.S. president when Trump fired back about the Burning of Washington.

In August of 1814, the U.S. federal capital was indeed invaded and burned by troops based in what is now Canada. Facing little to no resistance, the soldiers destroyed both the U.S. Capitol and the presidential mansion in one day of looting and destruction.

The current-day White House, from which Trump was likely taking Trudeau’s call, had to be mostly rebuilt as a result of the fire.

However, the soldiers who sacked Washington were all British.

(Excerpt) Read more at montrealgazette.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; security; tariffs; warof1812
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To: Stingray51

I believe the Canadians released this snippet of the conversation, trying to make Trump look bad. It will not go well for them.


41 posted on 06/07/2018 9:50:06 AM PDT by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: 1Old Pro

It got mentioned in a Due South episode.


42 posted on 06/07/2018 9:51:54 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: mewzilla

Who knows. Canada is a part of 5 eyes.


43 posted on 06/07/2018 9:52:54 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I can understand President Trump's suspicions, because as a native New Yorker like Trump, as a child I always thought there was a Canadian conspiracy to destroy the American economy one Canadian nickel in your change at a time.

-PJ

44 posted on 06/07/2018 9:55:57 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Russia fought on the side of the Allied Forces during WWII.

Trudeau is an a**.

45 posted on 06/07/2018 9:56:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

The brits celebrate fourth of july as thanksgiving.


46 posted on 06/07/2018 9:57:01 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: SeekAndFind

Back in 1690, during the War of the League of Augsburg, French forces based in Canada burned Schenectady, NY.


47 posted on 06/07/2018 9:57:53 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: SeekAndFind

Side note: I’m reading Brian Kilmeade’s Andrew Jackson and the miracle of New Orleans.

Just read the chapter on the President’s Mansion burning an hour ago.

Excellent book


48 posted on 06/07/2018 9:58:36 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sorry, but that’s funny.


49 posted on 06/07/2018 10:01:18 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: entropy12

>>>No war is possible to win if we have to depend on imports of steel & Aluminum.

Don’t forget oil. Time to put a tariff on all that oil coming in through the Keystone pipeline.


50 posted on 06/07/2018 10:06:05 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: Williams
There is no guarantee that Canada will remain a faithful ally of the United States and provide us with steel in times of war.

It's not like they have a track record or anything.

51 posted on 06/07/2018 10:08:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

52 posted on 06/07/2018 10:24:07 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: SeekAndFind

Idiot headline. His comment was sarcastic.


53 posted on 06/07/2018 10:28:03 AM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Canada is part of the British Monarchy. They did indeed burn down the Whitehouse in 1814 which was an action of the War of 1812.

And since then have fought beside us in two world wars, the Korean War, the Cold War, twice in Iraq and once in Afghanistan. If Trudeau's intent was to show that Canada is hardly a security risk then I think they've done that.


BRYCE HONSINGER: My name is Bryce Honsinger. I'm a grade five-six teacher at Applewood Public School in St. Catharines, Ontario.

SIEGEL: And, for Bryce Honsinger's fifth and sixth graders, the War of 1812 is no two day quickie.

HONSINGER: I would say that the units usually stretch between three to four weeks. In Ontario, it's certainly a major component of one of our curriculum strands and it's certainly something that our children relate to because of the heroes that come from the war and people that we look to as role models.

SIEGEL: In his class, the War of 1812 is taught as a crucial event in the development of a Canadian national identity. Honsinger says he uses the stories and records of his own forbearers. They were loyalists who had been on the losing side of the American Revolution, lost their lands and sought refuge and new lives north of the border.

When the U.S. tried to annex their new homeland, they stood their ground alongside British troops and loyal Indians.

HONSINGER: Many Canadians would consider that we won that war because we are not American. We maintain those boundaries. We were fighting one of the great powers to be in the world and we were able to beat them back.

SIEGEL: And those role models for young Canadians today? Well, while American politicians made huge careers in the 19th century as Indian fighters, the great Indian warrior, Tecumseh, is a hero up there.

HONSINGER: He was actually remembered in a lot of local newspapers at the time and 50 year celebrations of battles and things. He's remembered very, very favorably.

SIEGEL: And the bombs bursting over Baltimore Harbor, the burning of the White House, they teach that in Canada.

HONSINGER: Absolutely. They're definitely things that we touch upon because the Americans burned York, which is now Toronto, in 1813 and so the destruction of and the burning of Washington was seen as kind of a retaliation.

SIEGEL: If this is starting to sound like American history through the looking glass, consider the story of the woman I asked Melissa about a few minutes ago, Laura Secord. In Canada, there's a famous brand of chocolates named for her.

Laura Secord was Massachusetts-born, but her loyalist family had moved north. In 1813, invading American soldiers were quartered in her home, her husband had been injured in battle, and she overheard those Americans discussing a plan to attack a British camp under the command of an officer named James Fitzgibbon. The camp was a perilous 20 mile walk away, but as this 1990 song tells it, Laura Secord walked and warned the British so that Canada could remain free, free from us.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "SECORD'S WARNING")

SIEGEL: The British troops Laura Secord warned, far from being surprised by the Americans, in fact, surprised them.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "SECORD'S WARNING")

SIEGEL: By the way, the Canadians were probably the biggest winners of the War of 1812, but the biggest losers were neither the Americans nor the British. The Indians had hoped to gain a state of their own with British support. In the end, they were forced off their lands instead.

This is NPR News.

https://www.npr.org/2012/06/18/155308632/teaching-the-war-of-1812-different-in-u-s-canada

Not surprisingly, the Canadian history of the war began with a completely different set of heroes and villains. If the U.S. has its Paul Revere, Canada has Shawnee chief Tecumseh, who lost his life defending Upper Canada against the Americans, and Laura Secord, who struggled through almost 20 miles of swampland in 1813 to warn British and Canadian troops of an imminent attack. For Canadians, the war was, and remains, the cornerstone of nationhood, brought about by unbridled U.S. aggression. Although they acknowledge there were two theaters of war—at sea and on land—it is the successful repulse of the ten U.S. incursions between 1812 and 1814 that have received the most attention.

Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/british-view-war-1812-quite-differently-americans-do-180951852/#s21UmpkUD7i9HwY2.99

54 posted on 06/07/2018 10:35:16 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: JayGalt
Blame Canada
55 posted on 06/07/2018 10:36:23 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: SeekAndFind

PDJT - Sh!tLording it over the Soyboi.


56 posted on 06/07/2018 10:38:03 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: Rebelbase

It’s just fictional, alternate history, but the U.S. invades Canada in Harry Turtledove’s The Great War series.

I love that “what if” stuff.


57 posted on 06/07/2018 10:43:38 AM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: Sacajaweau

They sailed from Halifax with a crew of Ulstermen I think

Ross.


58 posted on 06/07/2018 10:45:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Shut your lips Trudeau!

When the Alberta boys march south, it will be to back up our southern neighbors in the stand against any tyranny.

That Trudeau bastard makes me sick. He’s Obama 2.0.


59 posted on 06/07/2018 10:45:56 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: SeekAndFind

Libs & Dems, not a funny bone in their entire body:-)


60 posted on 06/07/2018 10:46:08 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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