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Poland Pushes For Permanent US Military Base, Offers Up To $2B
International Business Times ^ | 05/28/18 | Arathi M

Posted on 05/28/2018 8:02:26 AM PDT by Enlightened1

In order to have a permanent United States’ military presence in the country, Poland is willing to put in as much as $2 billion, a defense military proposal by the latter claimed.

The proposal comes a month before the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) summit begins in Brussels, and is another push in Poland’s desire to have American troops in the country. Poland has expressed this need since its entry into NATO in 1999; however, the current urgency is due to Russia’s annexation of the Crimea region.

“Following Russian invasions in Georgia and Ukraine, countries in Central and Eastern Europe are concerned that they are next in Moscow’s crosshairs,” the public document stated.

Regarding the need for American military, the document mentioned, “This proposal outlines the clear and present need for a permanent U.S. armored division deployed in Poland, Poland’s commitment to provide significant support that may reach $1.5-2 billion by establishing joint military installations and provide for more flexible movement of U.S. forces,” while adding it was willing “to share the burden of defense spending, make the decision more cost-effective for the U.S. government and allay any concerns for Congress in uncertain budgetary times.”

Polish news portal Onet, which first obtained the document, reported the ministry sent the proposal to the U.S. government, Congress and to American think-tanks.

Apart from detailed maps of the future military bases, schools, hospitals, etc., the document also revealed how the funds can be used, such as for the construction and renovation of social, communication and military infrastructure.

The disclosure of the document did not sit well with all.

Janusz Zemke, former Polish deputy defense minister, said: “Of course, these issues should not be public. In this case, one should also distinguish evidence from naivety...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; europeanunion; germany; militarybase; nato; permanent; poland; russia; us
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2 Billion is chicken feed for a major military installation.

Anyhow, how about we sell them our weapons and provide training instead like we do with Israel? Let Poland build up their own military instead of depending on ours.

1 posted on 05/28/2018 8:02:27 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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I think the Poles realize that having us on their soil creates a sense of security from Russia that merely building up their own military would not accomplish. And I’m sure Putin would not be amused. But at least if we did it, we would be in a country that would probably be grateful, unlike Germany.


2 posted on 05/28/2018 8:06:44 AM PDT by vette6387
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Cool. More than some folks offer and Poland does no even have a base yet. Of course 2 billion is a small price to pay for security.


3 posted on 05/28/2018 8:07:08 AM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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After making fun of them for years, the World should listen intently to the Poles. They speak with conviction, having been oppressed by Fascism, then by Communism

If anyone appreciates freedom, it’s them


4 posted on 05/28/2018 8:11:00 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Ban athiests, not guns)
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Simple. Take every man and machine out of Germany, where we’ve protected them for 70 years and where they do not respect us, and move our military to Poland, which has been a friend of the USA since the Revolutionary War.(Check out Tadeusz Koscuiszko and Casimer Pulaski.)


5 posted on 05/28/2018 8:11:38 AM PDT by txrefugee
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I would do both.... an active base and arm and equip them. I love Poland and they were done wrong by the rest of the world in the last century.


6 posted on 05/28/2018 8:12:05 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: vette6387

Yes but I think over time they will be just like Western Europe ungrateful and more Socialistic.

I understand why we initially provided security after World War II. We did not want to see Western Europe go communist. That made sense. However, we made the mistake by not requiring them to incrementally strengthen their own military and rely less and less off of our military.

We could sell our latest weapons. Which would be great for our companies. It would strengthen our Allies. Perhaps even arm them with nukes? Yes Russia would not be pleased, but Poland would not have to worry about invasion and could defend itself.


7 posted on 05/28/2018 8:14:17 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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I’m not in favor of creating even more dependency in Europe. Instead, we should consider closing our remaining bases in Germany and possibly the rest of Europe.


8 posted on 05/28/2018 8:14:52 AM PDT by captain_dave
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How about we lift out of troops from S. Korea ?


9 posted on 05/28/2018 8:17:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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They can call it Ft Kościuszko in honor of the service he provided to the Continental Army or Ft Pulaski in honor of the father of the US Cavalry. We owe a debt to these two Poles who aided us in beating the Brits.
10 posted on 05/28/2018 8:18:30 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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I remember Lech Walesa, after he was elected president. His first action was to come to the US to thank Reagan personally.

He made the comment, and repeated it several times, that if Puerto Rico doesn’t want to be the 51st state, “we do!”...


11 posted on 05/28/2018 8:18:49 AM PDT by marron
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We could sell our latest weapons. Which would be great for our companies. It would strengthen our Allies.
= = = = = = = = = = = =

Wasn’t that one of the ‘great’ things about NATO?

One size fits all— if say WE changed the ammo, ALL had to change— so pols could ‘line’ their pockets while Arms Manufacturers etc could entice leaders and reps to change so ALL would have to.


12 posted on 05/28/2018 8:22:16 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If bacon kills you and smoking kills you, How come you smoke bacon to cure it?")
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get out of germany


13 posted on 05/28/2018 8:23:12 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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Haha! Now that would piss off Russia.


14 posted on 05/28/2018 8:25:26 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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$2B plus lots of Polish brides.


15 posted on 05/28/2018 8:28:04 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: txrefugee

Agree 100%


16 posted on 05/28/2018 8:33:18 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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I’m old enough to remember when Polish jokes were as common as water.

Interesting to see they are among the smartest of the European nations.


17 posted on 05/28/2018 8:33:26 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Moral Equivalent of the Plague - It Destroys Anyone it Infects)
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How about we shut down most of our presence in Germany and relocate to Poland.

Germany has already gone over to the Dark Side.

Poland is trying to hold back the invasion of the Shitholeians.


18 posted on 05/28/2018 8:36:51 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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To: vette6387

Poland has been a 100% loyal ally of the U.S. since the American Revolution.

The Polish Patriot Who Helped Americans Beat the British

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/polish-patriot-who-helped-americans-beat-british-180962430/

No one in Europe appreciates what the US did for them in WWII more than Poland.

They should be an even bigger trading partner than they are. Good people. And they refused to buy in on the immigration poison pill. SMART.


19 posted on 05/28/2018 8:37:12 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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Now that’s one European country worth defending. I agree with others about pulling our troops out of Germany and moving them to Poland. Putin would probably not like it but too bad.


20 posted on 05/28/2018 8:40:15 AM PDT by McGruff (MAGA)
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