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Homeland Security releases 15,000 additional H-2B visas
Boston Globe ^ | May 25, 2018 | Katie Johnston Globe Staff

Posted on 05/26/2018 8:16:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen M. Nielsen raised the cap on H-2B visas after determining there were not enough qualified US workers to meet the needs of American employers, the department said. The same situation occurred last year, although Homeland Security did not grant extra visas until July.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: h2b; h2bvisas; visas
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1 posted on 05/26/2018 8:16:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

WHY?! Isn’t there enough high school and college kids getting out of school to fill these jobs?! We do not need any foreign workers! What a disgraceful sell-out. And, worse, on President Trump’s watch.


2 posted on 05/26/2018 8:21:13 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink

You can provide a kid a job but you can’t make him work


3 posted on 05/26/2018 8:24:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming))
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To: Reno89519
WHY?! Isn’t there enough high school and college kids getting out of school to fill these jobs?!

I detest H1B's, but I think H2B's are a different animal.

To specifically answer your question, in seasonal resorts, there aren't enough local high school kids to fill all the jobs. They do fill some, but there just aren't enough local kids. That's here on Cape Cod, where the population tends to be older, the local kids somewhat fewer. Moreover, the seasonal tourist population is several times the local population between Memorial Day and Labor Day.

Now, an interesting question might be, "why isn't there an organized program to make it easier for American kids to apply and travel to where the summer jobs are?" But, there isn't.

4 posted on 05/26/2018 8:25:41 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: BenLurkin

This is the result of hiring a weepy blonde to run a supposedly hard line immigration enforcement operation.

She rolled over because cheap labor businesses pushed on her but she had no reason to: she already got chewed out by the President.

She should understand who counts more.


5 posted on 05/26/2018 8:26:30 AM PDT by Regulator
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” in seasonal resorts, there aren’t enough local high school kids to fill all the jobs “

What in god’s name are you talking about?

In my kid’s high school most of the kids have to get volunteer summer jobs (pool guards for example) because the paid jobs are occupied by illegals for the most part.

H2-B’s work in National Parks like Yellowstone that older teens would love to work in: the cashiers at the Old Faithful Lodge are all Chinese. My father worked there in 1946 as a “savage” (he was from Montana, not Shanghai) when he was 16. Not a single foreigner in sight back then.

We don’t need any “foreign workers”. If they can’t get people then the pay goes up until they attract some: no more excuses for welfare and “homelessness”.


6 posted on 05/26/2018 8:31:58 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: BenLurkin

“Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen M. Nielsen raised the cap on H-2B visas after determining there were not enough qualified US workers to meet the needs of American employers,”

This is BS. American workers are fired from jobs and required to train their H1B replacements.


7 posted on 05/26/2018 8:33:43 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

If they can import foreigners, they can surely import students!!! Bet a lot of high school and college kids would love a summer on the cape.


8 posted on 05/26/2018 8:34:45 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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If you have not been out to farm country or worked on an assembly line at a Tysons or Butterball plant....no. There are not enough. Why should they work when they (1) don't have the ethic, and (2) EBT is just a paper document away?

Americans, even FReepers have no clue what is going on out in the sticks. That is where many immigrant families are migrating to. Cheaper, unskilled labor, and less regulation for their own start-up businesses.

9 posted on 05/26/2018 8:39:22 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: BenLurkin

WHAT?????????? Heard the other day they were cutting the number. We don’t need any. Americans need jobs.


10 posted on 05/26/2018 8:57:27 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Mine and their friends worked seasonal jobs at the state park.


11 posted on 05/26/2018 8:59:17 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Reno89519

Billionaires don’t want to pay above $30k these years. More money for the upper management. Why can’t the top dogs be farmed out to India?

A VP at IBM once urged white Americans to move to India. He said they’d be paid less than in America but their $$$ would go farther.

Tired of them pissing on the tech sector, keeping 50 year olds at ancient wages working for contracting firms and telling us it’s raining.

Too much at the top.

I don’t care that someone earns a billion but damn right I will fight back when they lie to Congress and say that nobody here is qualified while they suppress wages. They have done a lot of damage to white collar degreed professional jobs.


12 posted on 05/26/2018 9:01:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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To: Reno89519

America first, huh?? Lol nary a word from the top either.crony corporatism and tax dodging.. putting American citizens dead last.


13 posted on 05/26/2018 9:26:02 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018)
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I have no problem bring in skill visa workers subject to the following conditions:

1) the enterprise that hires using a visa must pay the prevailing wage plus 10% to the employee and the enterprise must pay an additional 10% in taxes

2) the enterprise must demonstrate that the job has been posted and available to be filled with the prevailing wage advertised for 90 days prior to the submission of the application for the visa.

3) If any US Citizen employee is dismissed within 120 days of hire, the employee has the right to sue for unlawful termination. The burden of proof will be on the enterprise to show that the employee did not perform similar work. If the employer is found to be guilty of unlawful termination, the limit for restitution shall be 3x the annual salary and benefits that the employee was making at the time of termination, or the average of the three years prior, whichever is greater.

4) The visa shall be good for 1 year and may be renewed for 1 year, if the job gets re-posted and advertised as in #2. the visa shall not be renewed after the second year.


14 posted on 05/26/2018 9:29:58 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Reno89519
WHY?! Isn’t there enough high school and college kids getting out of school to fill these jobs?! We do not need any foreign workers! What a disgraceful sell-out. And, worse, on President Trump’s watch.

I looked into this, and the problem seems to be just what you recommend, high school and college kids - they will not work like the poor: Plus certain unions. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3655072/posts

Eddie Devine voted for President Donald Trump because he thought he would be good for American business. Now, he says, the Trump administration’s restrictions on seasonal foreign labor may put him out of business.

Devine says it has been years since he could find enough dependable, drug-free American workers for his $12-an-hour jobs mowing and tending landscapes for cemeteries, shopping centers and apartment complexes across Central Kentucky...

Importing these workers for a few months cost him an additional $18,000 in fees and expenses beyond their wages, which must be the same as he pays American workers. But that’s the only way he could serve his customers. ..These workers aren’t immigrants, and there is no path to U.S. citizenship. When their seasonal work is done, they return home...Trump’s properties in Florida and New York have used 144 H-2B workers since 2016.

>Crab crisis: Maryland seafood industry loses 40 percent of work force in visa lottery [The same number are available, but] Trump administration for the first time awarded them this year in a lottery, instead of on a first-come, first-served basis..

>Harris, a Republican who represents the Eastern Shore, said he is working with the administration to find a way to raise the visa cap further, or to allow crab pickers to work under an agricultural visa program that isn’t limited. He said efforts to revise the H-2B guest worker program have been stalled by opposition from labor groups [read UNION], which have argued that companies don’t try hard enough to hire Americans or pay a living wage before turning to the program. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-crab-visa-shortage-20180502-story.html

15 posted on 05/26/2018 9:32:57 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: bert

It’s economically impossible that these summer-wage jobs can only be filled by flying foreigners here and housing them.


16 posted on 05/26/2018 9:39:03 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Reno89519

Recruiters have been complaining...no qualified people, can’t pass drug tests and whiney snowflakes. We need skilled people to expand


17 posted on 05/26/2018 9:44:43 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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Trump is right, Nielsen is worthless. Fire her. Hire Kobach


18 posted on 05/26/2018 9:52:17 AM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Reno89519
If they can import foreigners, they can surely import students!!! Bet a lot of high school and college kids would love a summer on the cape.

Sure they could. But, that requires some sort of clearing house structure.

Under the current system, if a local supermarket needs some help, they likely go to some sort of clearing-house, and get connected to some overseas person who is connected to the H2B program through some sort of funnel in their home country.

If a traveling summer work corps clearing house could be set up, and American kids would do it, then there'd be no need for the existing system. But, without some sort of clearing house for the domestic program, I don't see how it could compete with the current system. Even, if its more desirable from our point of view.

19 posted on 05/26/2018 10:06:24 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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You can provide a kid a job but you can’t make him work

Well, if some parental "tough love" were to be used, and free-ride options eliminated, then perhaps finding work might suddenly be a viable option.

As an aside, lazy millennial snowflakes might discover some feeling of accomplishment, self-respect, and some new life goals.

I say "No thanks" to more job-robbing visas.

20 posted on 05/26/2018 10:52:49 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...excepto for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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