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Pope's reported comment to a gay man may indicate a new level of acceptance of homosexuality
LA Times ^ | 21 May 2018 | By TOM KINGTON

Posted on 05/21/2018 7:35:39 AM PDT by mandaladon

Pope Francis has reportedly told a gay man that "God made you that way and loves you as you are," apparently pushing the pontiff's acceptance of homosexuality to a new level.

Francis made the comments to Juan Carlos Cruz, a Chilean victim of priestly sexual abuse who recently spent days with the pope at the Vatican to discuss his ordeal as the pontiff moves to tackle decades of coverups and ostracism of victims in the Chilean church, according to the Spanish newspaper El Pais.

Cruz was quoted as having discussed his homosexuality with Francis. "He told me: 'Juan Carlos, I don't care about you being gay. God made you that way and loves you as you are and I don't mind. The pope loves you as you are, you have to be happy with who you are.' "

A spokesman at the Vatican on Sunday declined to confirm or deny Francis' comments, stating, "We don't normally comment on the pope's private conversations."

In 2013, Francis famously said, "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with goodwill, who am I to judge?" when asked for his views on homosexuality, signaling a sea change in Catholic views on sexual orientation.

That year he also told an interviewer, "A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality," adding, "I replied with another question: 'Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' "

His reported remarks based on Cruz's account go further, however, by suggesting he believes people are created gay by God — a position likely to anger Catholic conservatives.

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

FLASH!!!

This just in!!!


Millions of Roman Catholics; worldwide; have suffered from the Exploding Head Syndrome.


Film at 11...

141 posted on 05/22/2018 4:39:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bulwyf
It was doomed from the get go.

Now, now...

Just because you've read about those 7 catholic churches in Revelation...

142 posted on 05/22/2018 4:41:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoodleDawg
God hates you because you are gay?

Nope...

GOD hates sin.

Then the chips can fall where they may.

143 posted on 05/22/2018 4:44:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation

Make the beaches clean again.


144 posted on 05/22/2018 4:46:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SaveFerris
Some of us call that man the Antichrist.


 

 
      
 

These are the only places in the bible that the word antichrist is mentioned.
 
 
 
1 John 2:18
  Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
 
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist —denying the Father and the Son.
 
1 John 4:3
but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist , which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
 
2 John 1:7
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist .
 

145 posted on 05/22/2018 4:48:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The Pope knows that his priesthood and Vatican cadre has so many queers and pedophiles tht he must embrace the queerhood to maintain integrity


146 posted on 05/22/2018 4:49:16 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Biggirl
Sadly Catholic bashing is a sport in this forum.

It ain't 'bashing' if we diss our own pope!

--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary)

147 posted on 05/22/2018 4:53:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
This would be considered adultery.

Not necessarily.

We have the Roman model of 'Mary" and 'Joseph'.

They 'lived together' without having sexual relations; so; just perhaps...

148 posted on 05/22/2018 4:55:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoodleDawg

Ah...

so it’s fornication we have here...


149 posted on 05/22/2018 4:56:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tjd1454
Don’t get me wrong. I have very grave concerns about the present Pope, but I trust that the Lord will set things straight once again.

Autocorrect didn't place MARY into the sentence properly.

150 posted on 05/22/2018 4:58:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Except they were married. But, to Roman Catholic belief this was an invalid marriage as there was, per Roman Catholic dogma but not the New Testament, no inclination to have children of their own.

I tell ya....the more I continue to study Roman Catholicism, the more convoluted it gets.

151 posted on 05/22/2018 4:59:19 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Biggirl
Be careful not to bring in Jewish practices that have no place in the new covenant.

Likewise...


Be careful not to bring in Roman Catholic practices that have no foundation in the Book Rome assembled so long ago.

152 posted on 05/22/2018 5:00:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Although I’m not Catholic, I think I’m going to start eating Fish on Fridays, just to be safe...

Indeed!

Just as Rome has said SO many times; "You need not believe the message that an apparition brings."; still; it's a GOOD idea to hedge your bets!

153 posted on 05/22/2018 5:02:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Except they were married.

The Roman Catholic Church  has turned the beautiful, blessed lady of Scripture into an asexual, frigid Jewish wife; who withheld her favors from Joseph for no rational reason.
 

1 Corinthians 7:1-40 ESV 

... each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.

For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does.

Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.

 

 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer;

but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.


154 posted on 05/22/2018 5:11:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
so it’s fornication we have here...

As I said, I'm not without sin. On the other hand I'm not the one casting stones either.

155 posted on 05/22/2018 5:24:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
And strictly speaking, adultery is sex between a married person and someone who his not his or her spouse.

Uhhh.....no. Adultery is lusting after another person....married or not.

156 posted on 05/22/2018 5:40:36 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: DoodleDawg
And unlike others I've never said I was perfect or without sin. But what does that have to do with the subject at hand?

It goes to the heart of how you understand Scripture.

You think living with your boyfriend is not adultery. Scripture says otherwise.

157 posted on 05/22/2018 5:42:31 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

uhhh.... commandment creep


158 posted on 05/22/2018 5:43:42 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Thibodeaux

Adultery goes beyond the 10 Commandments. It’s not just the physical act.


159 posted on 05/22/2018 5:44:48 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: A Navy Vet

a couple corrections to your statement then i’ll leave you be on it. GOD does not need me to worship him, i need him, i try to be a good person but realize my righteousness is merely a false pride. God gives u and me free choice. government should be by logic and laws and minimally invasive as possible. i know i sin, the punishment of sin is death and hell, jews sacrificed lambs for death to passover, we have God incarnate as our lamb that paid my penalty so when GOD looks at me he doesn’t see my sins but the perfect sacrifice in my stead. GOD does not seem to judge and condemn us but to save us for glory, and we get to choose and i praise Him not because he demands it or to avoid hell but because he has saved me and my wife and children, and i owe him more than i could ever repay.


160 posted on 05/22/2018 6:53:06 AM PDT by rebel25 (GOD, Family, guns, and duck hunting, everything else is just noise.)
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