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Pope's reported comment to a gay man may indicate a new level of acceptance of homosexuality
LA Times ^ | 21 May 2018 | By TOM KINGTON

Posted on 05/21/2018 7:35:39 AM PDT by mandaladon

Pope Francis has reportedly told a gay man that "God made you that way and loves you as you are," apparently pushing the pontiff's acceptance of homosexuality to a new level.

Francis made the comments to Juan Carlos Cruz, a Chilean victim of priestly sexual abuse who recently spent days with the pope at the Vatican to discuss his ordeal as the pontiff moves to tackle decades of coverups and ostracism of victims in the Chilean church, according to the Spanish newspaper El Pais.

Cruz was quoted as having discussed his homosexuality with Francis. "He told me: 'Juan Carlos, I don't care about you being gay. God made you that way and loves you as you are and I don't mind. The pope loves you as you are, you have to be happy with who you are.' "

A spokesman at the Vatican on Sunday declined to confirm or deny Francis' comments, stating, "We don't normally comment on the pope's private conversations."

In 2013, Francis famously said, "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with goodwill, who am I to judge?" when asked for his views on homosexuality, signaling a sea change in Catholic views on sexual orientation.

That year he also told an interviewer, "A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality," adding, "I replied with another question: 'Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' "

His reported remarks based on Cruz's account go further, however, by suggesting he believes people are created gay by God — a position likely to anger Catholic conservatives.

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Cruz endured sexual abuse as a youth in Chile by prelate Fernando Karadima, who was sentenced by the Vatican in 2011 to a lifetime of penance.

The Vatican did not, however, believe his claim that the abuse was witnessed and covered up by Chilean Bishop Juan Barros. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Next thing he'll approve of will be pedophilia ?

1 posted on 05/21/2018 7:35:39 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

God made me a thief and a liar. Its good to know I can just accept my natural fallen condition! Thanks Pope!


2 posted on 05/21/2018 7:37:00 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: mandaladon
What does abomination mean to the Vatican?

Less and less these days, for sure.

3 posted on 05/21/2018 7:38:37 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: mandaladon

The poor sap is “gay” because he was abused. God didn’t do it.


4 posted on 05/21/2018 7:40:01 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: mandaladon

Roman Catholicism is falling apart. They’ve abandoned solid Biblical teachings for a long, long time by elevating “Sacred Tradition” to the same level of authority as Scripture. This is the fruit of doing so.


5 posted on 05/21/2018 7:40:54 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: PGR88

God doesn’t “make” people with psychological disorders. They happen.


6 posted on 05/21/2018 7:41:22 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: mandaladon

He has rejected church teaching people. He cannot be pope. Time to go.


7 posted on 05/21/2018 7:41:28 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Are they all going crazy, or have they already gone?)
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To: mandaladon

Jesuits are a secret society which originated in Argentina. They are basically satanists whose goal is to infiltrate the church. I feel pretty confident Pope Francis is one of them.


8 posted on 05/21/2018 7:41:56 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: PGR88

Did God make pseudo-Pope Francis an agnostic, Mooooslim-loving Communist, supportive of the radical homosexual agenda? I think not. I think he CHOSE to be a miscreant.


9 posted on 05/21/2018 7:42:34 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("Words with lightness thus endowed Formed melodies, I know not how." Al Stewart from "The Elf")
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To: mandaladon

“Pope’s reported comment to a gay man may indicate a new level of acceptance of homosexuality”

“My room, 8 o’clock. Tell no one.”


10 posted on 05/21/2018 7:42:38 AM PDT by moovova
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To: mandaladon

‘a position likely to anger Catholic conservatives.’

if Catholic conservatives wish to be angered, all they need do is recall the church’s vigorous recruitment of gays to the seminaries in the ‘60’s...


11 posted on 05/21/2018 7:43:58 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: mandaladon

Fake pope


12 posted on 05/21/2018 7:44:08 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: mandaladon

Knowing this one I suspect it was something like “Hello big boy”

(am I right? there is something seriously wrong with this guy)


13 posted on 05/21/2018 7:44:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: mandaladon

It’s quite obviously that Satan is pulling the strings in this man’s life, not God. I’d guess that there are some issues like this in the majority of (but not all) the LBTQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ community.


14 posted on 05/21/2018 7:45:10 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: mandaladon

The Pope is a Jesuit. The Jesuit order has devolved into an unspeakable cabal that has become comfortable with depravity. Any parent that entrusts their young son to their care is negligent.


15 posted on 05/21/2018 7:46:36 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: ealgeone

‘This is the fruit of doing so.’

and you explain the gaiety in the Protestant churches exactly how...?


16 posted on 05/21/2018 7:47:41 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: mandaladon

Behavior is conditioned. It’s not “Who you are”, no matter how strongly some people have conditioned themselves to accept a particular behavior. Delusions are mental, not physical.


17 posted on 05/21/2018 7:48:11 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: onedoug
What does abomination mean to the Vatican?

Bergolio.

18 posted on 05/21/2018 7:48:55 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: mandaladon

“May?”


19 posted on 05/21/2018 7:49:30 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: mandaladon

The beginning of the end.


20 posted on 05/21/2018 7:49:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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