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Flashback: Even Democrats Thought Obama's (Now Dead) Iran Deal Was Total Garbage
Townhall.com ^ | May 8, 2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 05/08/2018 5:07:07 PM PDT by Kaslin

It’s over. The Iran Deal is over for the U.S. President Trump announced our withdrawal from the agreement this afternoon:

Excellent, clear speech. One of the strongest moments of Trump’s presidency.— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) May 8, 2018

"I am announcing today the United State will withdraw from the Iran Nuclear deal," Trump said from the Diplomatic Room. "This is a horrible, one sided deal that should have never been reached..It didn't bring calm, it didn't bring peace and it never will." 

"The deal's sunset provision is unacceptable," Trump continued. "If I allowed this deal to stand, there would soon be a nuclear arms race in the Middle East."

"It is clear to me we cannot prevent an Iranian nuclear bomb under the decaying and rotten structure of the current agreement. The Iran deal is defective at its core," he said further.

Guy has his analysis about howthis is the right decisionfor the Trump White House. Yet, let’s be honest here. The media will go apoplectic over this decision. They will say it will degrade America’s credibility and speculate about a resurgent neoconservative circle emerging within the president’s foreign policy team. The Left with froth at the mouth, especially team Obama, who did nothing when Russia annexed Crimea, nothing when Yemen caught fire, nothing when chemical weapons were used in Syria, and did nothing for forcefully combat the rise of ISIS. This is the brain trust that said ISIS was the “JV team” of international terrorism. Well, now they are; Trump beat them. But it took his exit for our forces to effectively defeat the terror group on the ground. Yet, back to this deal, it’s not like this should be shocking. Trump campaigned on it. Also, are we truly floored that a state-sponsor of terrorism pretty much lied about their nuclear ambitions? Please, even members of Obama’s own party were against this agreement. 

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY):

Admittedly, no one can tell with certainty which way Iran will go. It is true that Iran has a large number of people who want their government to decrease its isolation from the world and focus on economic advancement at home. But it is also true that this desire has been evident in Iran for thirty-five years, yet the Iranian leaders have held a tight and undiminished grip on Iran, successfully maintaining their brutal, theocratic dictatorship with little threat. Who’s to say this dictatorship will not prevail for another ten, twenty, or thirty years?

To me, the very real risk that Iran will not moderate and will, instead, use the agreement to pursue its nefarious goals is too great. 

Therefore, I will vote to disapprove the agreement, not because I believe war is a viable or desirable option, nor to challenge the path of diplomacy. It is because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power. Better to keep U.S. sanctions in place, strengthen them, enforce secondary sanctions on other nations, and pursue the hard-trodden path of diplomacy once more, difficult as it may be. 

Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) (via the Hill):

"The deal ultimately legitimizes Iran as a threshold nuclear state," Menendez, who stepped down as the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee earlier this year amid corruption charges, said on MSNBC's "The Rundown." "The deal doesn't end Iran's nuclear program, it preserves it."

The New Jersey senator, a long-time critic of the negotiations, refuted President Obama's claim that the deal allows for 24/7 access to inspect any site believed to be violating the deal.

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) (via Charleston Gazette-Mail):

Sen. Joe Manchin will vote to oppose the nuclear agreement with Iran, joining every other member of West Virginia’s congressional delegation in opposition.

Manchin announced his decision one week after Democrats secured the votes necessary to make sure the deal goes into effect, downplaying, somewhat, the significance of his announcement.

The deal, which gives Iran relief from international economic sanctions in return for limits on and inspections of the country’s nuclear program, is all but sure to be put into place, despite the objections of West Virginia’s representatives.

Now-former Rep. Steve Israel (D-NY), Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA), and Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) all opposed the deal as well. Yet, not enough were able to cross the aisle with Republicans to override a veto threat by Obama over the resolution to reject the agreement. From the September 10, 2015 edition of The New York Times:

Senate Democrats delivered a major victory to President Obama when they blocked a Republican resolution to reject a six-nation nuclear accord with Iran on Thursday, ensuring the landmark deal will take effect without a veto showdown between Congress and the White House.

A procedural vote fell two short of the 60 needed to break a Democratic filibuster. It culminated hours of debate in the Senate and capped weeks of discord since the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China announced the agreement with Iran in July.

This staunch opposition from the GOP and some Democrats is the reason why the Iran Deal is an agreement and not a treaty. It wouldn’t pass if that were the case. 




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KEYWORDS: iran; irandeal; nucleardeal; obama; trumpadministration; trumpwhitehouse
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To: piasa

+1

Maybe we could offer them Obama, too.


21 posted on 05/08/2018 7:58:33 PM PDT by Enchante ("Don't believe every bit of crap you read on the internet." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1783 --)
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To: BobL

[ “Senate Democrats delivered a major victory to President Obama when they blocked a Republican resolution to reject a six-nation nuclear accord with Iran on Thursday, ensuring the landmark deal will take effect without a veto showdown between Congress and the White House.

A procedural vote fell two short of the 60 needed to break a Democratic filibuster. It culminated hours of debate in the Senate and capped weeks of discord since the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China announced the agreement with Iran in July.”

I’m still scratching my head over this:

The last time I read the Constitution, I thought it said that a 2/3’s vote is needed in the Senate to RATIFY a treaty, while this article implies that a 2/3’s vote in the Senate (and House, I guess) is needed to REJECT a treaty (after a presidential veto).

What the hell is going on here? ]

Bob Corker happened...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlAW9bspm58


22 posted on 05/08/2018 10:49:47 PM PDT by GraceG ("Trust, But Verify the Plan!")
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To: BobL

I was so hoping today Trump would say another reason for ditching it was that the Senate did not ratify it. And that is another part of this long process to bring back Constitutional government to these United States of America.

That would have been sweet.


23 posted on 05/08/2018 10:52:25 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: Kaslin

” a resurgent neoconservative emerging”.
F#CK the neocons, PALEOCON is the only way forward.
America and the CONSTITUTION first, last, and always.


24 posted on 05/08/2018 11:18:40 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: turfmann

What makes you think that POS is an “American”?
He’s a bastard African if any thing!


25 posted on 05/08/2018 11:21:16 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: goldstategop

Bingo!


26 posted on 05/09/2018 4:51:28 AM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: Kaslin

Well, one other very good thing about these revelations - Vooch was outed for the ignorant ass that he is, and was unceremoniously terminated from FR yesterday.

1.) The Iran Deal was not a ratified treaty.
2.) Iran never signed the “deal”, so therefore it was never binding.
3.) The “deal” was nothing more than a “community organizing” play by the cocaine-snorter and cheat, O-buttfkr.


27 posted on 05/09/2018 10:17:22 AM PDT by JME_FAN (uired to)
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To: goldstategop

According to the State Department, Iran never signed the document. Therefore it was not even an executive “agreement!”


28 posted on 05/09/2018 10:19:29 AM PDT by JME_FAN (uired to)
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