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We Have A Congressman Calling For Civil War
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=233438 ^ | May 5, 2018 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 05/06/2018 7:22:23 AM PDT by Wolfie

We Have A Congressman Calling For Civil War

Let's not mince words: Eric Swalwell is advocating for Civil War.

"Instead, we should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons. The ban would not apply to law enforcement agencies or shooting clubs."

.... " The Parkland teens have taught us there is no right more important than every student’s right to come home after class. The right to live is supreme over any other."

Right here, Mr. Sawlwell is advocating for a civil war -- right now.

He is in fact advocating for millions of murders.

He is claiming as justification exactly the same argument made for keeping slaves -- that some people are superior to others.

Mr. Swalwell claims that the right to live is supreme over any other.

The problem is that without disarming everyone -- including every weapon, and that includes the police, he is declaring that this right only exists for certain people and not others and he intends to murder anyone who disagrees with them.

Let's not mince words: All laws are ultimately backed by homicide. If you refuse to respect the validity of the law the guns will come out and they will be used on you. That's homicide and those arguing for laws are in each and every case arguing for homicide. We thus must debate for each and every law what category that proposed homicide falls into. I remind you there are several categories of homicide, including:

1. Meritorious (e.g. shooting someone who is raping your daughter) 2. Justifiable (e.g. shooting someone who breaks into your home -- but has not yet attacked you.) 3. Accidental (e.g. you lose control of your vehicle due to black ice on the road, etc.) 4. Negligent (e.g. your car has terribly bald tires and hydroplanes, etc.) 5. Felonious (e.g. you stick up a bank and shoot a teller)

All homicide, in other words, is not equal. Some is punishable, some is regrettable, some is just bad luck and some is worthy of cheering. But make no mistake -- all laws are in fact declarations of intent to commit homicide upon those who disagree with them and the category of that homicide must be debated and agreed upon as that intent is inherent in the passage of any law.

The Constitution, however, is not the "10 Suggestions." It is the supreme law of the land. It trumps all other laws and cannot be changed by Statute or by judicial fiat. The 14th Amendment says its protections and divisions of power extend to the State and local level, and denies the States any ability to infringe on its requirements.

The Second Amendment is clear on its face: Shall Not Be Infringed means what it says. In addition the word militia means what it says too: All adult males physically capable of rendering armed resistance in the event of need who are expected to have their own arms and ammunition. Go ahead and include the gals if you wish; works for me, but that's not the historical context. In other words the gals are free to show up and render such resistance but able-bodied men are expected to. There are exactly two ways to overrule those words: 1) Revolution or secession, at which point the Constitution ceases to exist entirely, all at once (that's the point of either of those events, duh) and 2) Amendment by the process set forth in the Constitution.

That many people will honor a law, ordnance or regulation that is expressly in violation of the Constitution does not obligate anyone else to do so. That someone in any branch of government claims that the clear words written in said Constitution don't mean what they say does not obligate anyone to agree. The Constitution is not a debate society; it is a set of facts and a contract between the people and the government.

The people have no obligation to honor a violation of that contract today or tomorrow irrespective of whether they have in the past.

If you wish to read the actual arguments made before the 2nd Amendment was adopted (along with the rest of the Constitution), along with what militia actually means go read both The Federalist and Anti-Federalist. They set forth in black ink the debate that was held and why the elements of the Constitution exist along with the hierarchy of law that is inherent in this nation's governance. They're not debatable either; they're historical fact and were in fact the elements of the debate, penned and presented, for the express purpose of making sure nobody could misunderstand their intent, the arguments presented and the outcome.

Now let me point out both why the Second Amendment actually exists and why the ordinary person needs to own not just one but at least two high-capacity, high-accuracy rifles -- like AR-15s.

This first permanent settlement in America is arguably Jamestown, in 1622. It is now 2018. That's 396 years. In that time we have had two serious internal Civil Wars; one of which was successful in its aims (the Revolution) the other not (The Civil War or, if you prefer The War of Northern Aggression.) That is one incident per 198 years, on average. In other words there is a 0.51% chance per year of violent civil war or uprising intending to render moot the entire existing government across a material section of the nation's landmass. May I remind you that America is in fact one of the best large land-masses in regard to this risk; Continental Europe has had two serious internal wars in the last 100 years, for a per-year risk of 2% or four times ours. Some parts of Europe have been much worse than that, as has most of the Middle East and a large part of Asia. We can argue over the reason for that later -- and the 2nd Amendment might be part of it.

0.5% per year is a very low risk, but it's definitely not zero.

An average adult lives to about 80, and is an adult at 18. He or she is therefore an adult for approximately 62 years.

Now let me ask the question: What risk of calamity do you believe justifies your personal holding of insurance against the risk of your death in the event the bad thing happens?

If you live in a "100 year" flood plain this means on average over very long periods of time it floods once every 100 years. Your mortgage is for 30 years. Your mortgage company will require you to buy flood insurance because the cumulative risk of a flood during that 30 years is about 26%. That is plenty for the bank to require you pay for that insurance -- or they won't write your mortgage.

What is the risk of, for example, contracting cancer during your lifetime? The answer is about 38.5%.

What is the risk of needing an AR-15 to survive a severe civil conflict (defined as revolution or civil war) during your 62 adult years, given the history of such conflicts on the landmass known today as United States since white European-ancestry have been in permanent residence upon same?

The math is simple: 1 - (cumulative odds of NOT having it happen over 62 years), or in arithmetic notation 1 - (0.9949 ^ 62)

Ready for the result?

It's 27.17% -- higher than your house flooding if you live in a 100 year flood plain.

What if we keep taking in immigrants who refuse to assimilate and we become more socialist much as Europe has done over the last several hundred years -- and our risk in fact looks like theirs based on the last 100 years. What is the risk you will need that AR-15 during your adult lifetime in that case, which I think is a fair argument on the risk we take today given how we refuse to secure our borders and expel those who are here illegally now?

Sitting down?

71.4%

That's right -- there is a 71.4% chance that Europe will suffer a war of similarity to WWI and WWII during a person's adult lifetime, based on the two World Wars. It's not much different odds, incidentally, if you start enumerating all the other wide scale wars (civil and otherwise) on the European Continent all the way back to the time of the Roman Empire!

You are reasonably close in odds to needing that rifle as you to are to getting cancer during your lifetime. Indeed, it's about 70% as likely.

You're also more likely to need that AR-15 than your home is to flood during a 30 year period if you live in a 100 year flood plain.

And if we do not get rid of all the illegal invaders in this nation and keep admitting those who have no respect for or intent to follow our Constitution, along with putting people with rank disrespect for same in Congress and our Executive like Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Swalwell and both Presidents Obama and Trump then it's a fair bet that your odds are not 27.1% but far closer to 70%.

In other words, it's odds-on.

If the bad happens while you might need a pistol, a hunting rifle or .22 for secondary defensive or eating purposes your primary weapon requirement is going to be a high-powered rifle like the AR-15. You will also need a nice-sized stack of high-capacity magazines loaded and ready to go, a case (or more) of ammunition and two rifles, because in such a situation you will not be able to get parts or spares for your gun and thus two is one and one is none.

Further, in such a situation just like in every other similar situation over time there will be plenty of people who have nothing EXCEPT said rifle and will attempt to take everything you have from you, using the complete breakdown of ordinary civilization as their excuse, murdering you and your entire family in the process. We see myriad examples of this all over the world today, including in Syria right now. You will either be able to attempt to stop them because you personally posses a high-power rifle and ammunition for it or you will be murdered, anyone who happens to be female will likely be raped first and everything you own will be confiscated or destroyed.

There is utterly nobody who has graduated from High School who should not have been able to within seconds compute these odds and understand both how the math works behind this and why. That there is any uptake among the people of this country for such an act as confiscation of these weapons from civilians is proof positive that our government has intentionally failed to educate our young people for decades for the explicit purpose of making them unable to calculate the odds of such an event and thus understand why it is absolutely critical that these weapons not only be perfectly legal for ordinary people to posses but that their possession and proficiency in their use must be encouraged.

Indeed it is likely that the pre-NFA state of the law prior to the 1930s is why America has a risk of such war or revolution that is one quarter of that of other developed and similar cultures and nations -- specifically, the entirety of Europe.

But in today's world with people like Eric Swalwell in Congress and our de-facto refusal to demand that any who wish to immigrate to the United States do so only under the expectation and belief that they agree with the Constitution in all respects the risk is much more-likely to be akin to that in Europe.

You don't need one AR-15, in short.

Every adult in fact needs two or more of them because during your adult life you're odds on to experience the very unfortunate set of events that will require you own and have a working one, right now, or you and all of those who you love will be dead.


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; captainj; captainjackswallow; cwii; cwiiping; denninger; ericswalwell; guns; nra; secondamendment; ticker
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To: Candor7

https://reason.com/blog/2018/04/20/cdc-provides-more-evidence-that-plenty-o


21 posted on 05/06/2018 7:53:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Wolfie

According to Cal-Berkley, Republicans speaking is to blame for Democrat violence. It must be that Republicans breathing is to blame for Democrats speaking up for violent ends.


22 posted on 05/06/2018 7:55:14 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Wolfie

He’s not advocating civil war, nor will there be one. They way it works, is that once the laws are in place, the following happens:

1) Everyone is promised that there will NOT be any mass break-in searches for these weapons, in other words ‘if you have like your guns, you can keep your guns’ (for now).

2) Then there will be a buy-back period, with a decent amount of money being paid, maybe $2k for an AR - in order to get as many back as possible.

3) Then, after a short while, there will be an Amnesty for those who still have their weapons - no more $2k, just a way to get rid of them before the real enforcement begins.

4) Then the show-trials begin, as weapons are come across, or people are ratted on, by kids or ex’s, they will go case-by-case. For people who turn them in, a light sentence, for those who don’t, a search warrant, with a felony charge if anything is found.

5) After some very high profile convictions and 10 year jail terms of otherwise law-abiding white people, another amnesty is offered, and more turn in their guns.

6) Then they maybe start asking questions to people who haven’t dispositioned guns they had purchased (i.e., using background checks). If you comply and either give a good reason for no longer having them (and no, a boating accident won’t work), a light sentence, if not, more searches.

7) And then, after a bunch more show trials, maybe one last Amnesty.

And, at that point it’s pretty much over - the government will mop them up as they find them.

It all ends in a whimper. Oh yea, and the Second Amendment, that only protects the right of the military (militia) to have guns (LOL), thanks to our Democrat judges. Remember, Heller was a 5-4 decision.


23 posted on 05/06/2018 7:55:55 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Wolfie

The democrats will force honest, non-violent citizens to turn them in, and they will NEVER try to take guns away from violent criminals.


24 posted on 05/06/2018 7:58:23 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Wolfie

” The Parkland teens have taught us there is no right more important than every student’s right to come home after class.”

If that’s the case, then ban these Tide pods eating retards from driving since more kids are killed each year in car accidents than are killed by any other means.


25 posted on 05/06/2018 8:01:20 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: Wolfie

Future headline: “Jail time sought for tens of millions who failed to report property lost in boating accidents”


26 posted on 05/06/2018 8:01:22 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Wolfie

Why isn’t this “Congressman” being brought up on charges for lying when he took the oath of office???


27 posted on 05/06/2018 8:01:51 AM PDT by Darnright (If you can't change your fate, change your attitude. - Tan)
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To: Wolfie

sending these facts and figures to my 14 yo granddaughter for her pro Second Amendment debate stance. hope someone videos her teacher’s head exploding.


28 posted on 05/06/2018 8:02:00 AM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: Wolfie

You Don’t need an AR15...
You need Two!

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.WOW!


29 posted on 05/06/2018 8:02:56 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: BobL

Well...
We had a Good Run.
I’ll just curl up in a ball...
And Whimper.


30 posted on 05/06/2018 8:08:12 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: CodeToad

Because of Idiots like him we need to stay armed.

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Exactly! He and many others would round us up if they could do so. They would do it and smirk at us as we were being loaded on the cattle cars. But this time the “Jews” are armed.


31 posted on 05/06/2018 8:08:54 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Candor7

Apply us argument to abortion and watch his head spin....


32 posted on 05/06/2018 8:09:05 AM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Wolfie

33 posted on 05/06/2018 8:09:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Wolfie
Some history.

The American War of Independence began on April 19, 1775, when 700 Redcoats under the command of Major John Pitcairn left Boston to seize American arms at Lexington and Concord.

The precursors are well represented in the first third of the article.

34 posted on 05/06/2018 8:12:43 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Wolfie

Regarding his exception for law enforcement... I would prefer that no law enforcers have rights beyond any law abiding citizen.


35 posted on 05/06/2018 8:13:32 AM PDT by OldNukeDaddy
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To: Wolfie

So, when will they push for disarming all the illegals?

Why aren’t they pushing for disarming the thugs in Chicago or New Orleans?

Why don’t they disarm their bodyguards?


36 posted on 05/06/2018 8:14:19 AM PDT by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: BobL
He’s not advocating civil war, nor will there be one....

IMHO, your entire scenario relies on accurate registration and a compliant lemming-like public (ie. Britian, Australia, Canada, etc.) public. Nothing could be further from the truth in the US.

Don't believe me? Check out '80% receivers' for sale.

Considering the miserably low 'assault weapon/magazine' registration compliance demonstrated in other states, I highly doubt a ban would be even remotely successful, and there will be a small percentage of citizens that may give up their firearms 'bullets first'. The rest will just lay quiet.
37 posted on 05/06/2018 8:15:57 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Wolfie

What Market Ticker’s Karl Denninger’s comments about some congressman shooting off his bazoo about chucking the 2nd amendment and the idolizing of the Parkland children manipulated by the nedia incident fail to do.

Besides not identifying what state and district thie jerk is from,is give the media a pass as well as the failed Promise Policies and the thinking behind them employed at that Parkland High School which permitted those shootings to happen.


38 posted on 05/06/2018 8:16:14 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: Fresh Wind

Is that little Adolf in “skinny pants” standing behind her? ROTFL. The DNC’s own Justin Bieber.


39 posted on 05/06/2018 8:16:50 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: Wolfie

This is going nowhere. Congress isn’t going to ban a “style” of weapons. Just another ankle biter trying to make his bones with the left.


40 posted on 05/06/2018 8:18:01 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm.)
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