Posted on 05/03/2018 8:35:00 AM PDT by rktman
A congressional committee report states that a large electromagnetic pulse (EMP) inundating America could cause 90% of Americans to die. The EMP is inevitable. The dead Americans are not.
Pry explained that an EMP can happen in a few different ways: if an adversary attacks America using nuclear weapons, or naturally via a large solar storm. The reason why a large EMP hitting Earth is inevitable is that solar storms are inevitable. They happen regularly. The only question is when a large one will cross Earth's path. For instance, NASA reported that if a solar superstorm from 2012 had happened just one week earlier, it would have blasted the Earth with a catastrophic EMP. We are playing this slot machine every day. Eventually, we're going to hit the jackpot.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
And water purification means.
Probably needs to be detonated far underground to have any consequences.
Mariner said, in Post #31, “Only stupid people believe man-made EMP, more than several miles from the source, will cause any damage whatsoever.”
Starfish Prime caused effects 900 miles away in Hawaii - well beyond “several miles” from the source. I’m guessing that you think that everyone in Hawaii that experienced those effects was stupid.
This article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Project_K_nuclear_tests has more details than the prior one about the EMP effects of Soviet Test 184. I’m guessing that you also think that everyone in the Soviet Union that experienced those effects was stupid.
You know, what is *actually* stupid is spouting off as if you’re an authority on a subject when, in reality, you know somewhere between zip and zilch about it. I don’t pretend to be an expert on EMP, but I do know how to access publicly available information about it, so as to learn. Maybe I’m being a bit bold here, but I’m going to suggest that you do something similar to what I’ve done. When you get more information, then you’ll be in a better position to give everyone an informed opinion, rather than just casually dismissing something that you don’t actually understand.
“or the powers-that-be don’t care if it happens”
Or they have a special place for themselves and their families to go already.
Noted. So long as you don’t just dismiss, out of hand, the impact that a nuclear EMP can produce (”can,” as in demonstrated in nuclear tests in the 1960s).
There is a reason or reasons why America does not show up in Bible End times prophecy ... there ain't no power to US when the final 7 year end arrives. How that becomes USA reality has people guessing ...
No, resonance is the key ... a quick look at how the eruption sites have migrated over the past multi-millions of years reveals a resonance site.
My post #33 was only too long for those with a short attention span.
As for conflating high and low frequencies, I’m no engineer, let alone an expert in the area of EMP. However, I carefully laid out my sources and let them speak for me.
The Carrington Event speaks for itself. So does Starfish Prime and Soviet Test #184. Is our electrical grid different than in 1859 or 1962? Yes, certainly. In some ways it is more vulnerable, in some ways less so. We are also FAR more dependent upon electrical and electronic devices than at any time in history, so any pulse (from whatever source) that would effect transformers, long lines OR electronic devices would have effects - perhaps devastating effects. What I cannot stand here (and in society in general) is the Normalcy Bias (which I incorrectly listed as “Confirmation bias” in my Post #33) that says that such effects are impossible - people need to get informed before shooting off their mouths (or keyboards).
” How that becomes USA reality has people guessing ... “
Yellowstone, San Andres, Cascadia and the New Madrid all going off at once?
Oh, add in the entirety of La Palma sliding in the Atlantic for an East Coast effect.
Hey, it’s God!
1. I already addressed Justa about this. He is correct about the Carrington Event-type of pulse (which is E3).
However...
2. If there is an artificial EMP, the E1 pulse will occur virtually instantaneously...and will leave our entire electrical/electronic infrastructure more vulnerable to E2 and E3 pulses.
I am presuming that we will have advanced warning of a Carrington Event-type of pulse, and be able to shut down some parts of our grid, and unplug as many devices as possible, so as to manually reduce the effects. There will likely be no such warning if we are attacked by another nation or a terrorist group that obtains a nuke on a rocket by some means. Proper planning would implement measures that would protect against BOTH natural and artificial EMPs - and my sole purpose on this thread was and is to let people know that the risks of either are not zero.
Personally, I prefer UPSs with solid state circuit breaker. I connect my power strips to a UPS.
CME is over-hyped though. It only loads up on exposed metal wire and cannot travel through walls to get into a house. The high tension cables and residential distribution lines (inc. transformers) have had over voltage protection for a long time. I have aerial electrical in my area so I have to take some precaution that buried electrical line users don’t.
Surprisingly the worst damage I took was when our power came back on after Irma. Apparently, some people on our grid did not disconnect their house circuit from the grid when they ran their generators. I.e. a separate breaker panel for the generator which is isolated from the house panel so they can shut off the main breaker and provide generator power to the house -not the street.
When electrical power was restored these ppls’ generator power was added on top of the line power. It was my misfortune to be up at 2am when the power was restored. I saw the street lights were on and went and turned off the generator and re-connected to line power (toggled generator panel breakers to Line Power and turned on the main breaker). Whack, there went one of the LED rows in my microwave’s display panel. I knew right away why. At 2am not many ppl on generator are awake to manually switch back to line power. If they haven’t shut off their main breaker they’re putting their generator output onto the grid. The expensive, automated generator systems are apparently few and far between in my neighborhood.
Your neighborhood coyote club is holding its breath... hurry up.
We had to resort to an electric fence 3” and 10” off the ground we lost so many hens.
OR electronic devices
Not "Or electronic devices", long lines only (meaning miles) and the connected transformers, and some electrical not on surge protectors or otherwise insulated.
Sure, but keep in mind the E1 is very difficult to generate over a wide area. E1 will never (except the 1 in a billion year thing) be generated naturally. E1 will never be accomplished by a terrorist group or Rocket Man. The Chinese or Russians could probably do some, but it is speculative how widespread the damage would be.
If you had read the referenced material on Wiki, you would have found:
” Q: What about failure of power lines from other tests? A: I have no information on that,
with the exception of the military generator plant I already spoke of.
q. Q: Is the north-south and east-west orientation of lines is important? A: Definitely yes.
They are unambiguously tied to the geomagnetic field.”
The military diesel generator plant was nearly directly below the blast.
On the telephone lines:
“Q: Was the damage done to fuses only? A: Fuses were associated with air-suspended lines
only. The cable system switched itself off; resetting required manual operation. The line was
equipped with relays and were designed to switch off if they experienced a power surge of more
than 30 percent than the specification required.”
Required manual reset of fuses.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/News/Loborev.txt
As for Starfish Prime, less than 1% of streetlights were affected by the surge in Hawaii. And that was a 1.4 MT air blast at 250miles up.
The people in Hawaii didn’t experience any effect, they just noticed a few lights went out.
Much ado about nothing.
I have an UPS with a mechanical breaker. It clicks pretty much all day long, but it is adequate in conjunction with surge arrestors. The very fast but quite hypothetical EMP pulse will simply fry all electronics, surge arrestor or not. I am not worried about CME personally although the economy and society will take a hit. Nor do I worry about the dirty neighborhood even without a brownout or blackout. I have lots of electronics completely off the grid and the microwave is unplugged most of the time.
The Carrington event was not a one off partial second occurrence. It happened over a period of 4 days. The electrical shield of the earth was also stronger at that time than now.
But none of those factors are going to make the orders of magnitude difference needed to affect wires the length of a house or even a neighborhood.
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