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Opinion: Robert Mueller’s Last Resort
New York Times ^ | April 25, 2018 | By John N. Tye and Mark S. Zaid

Posted on 04/25/2018 1:22:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

It’s a nightmare scenario, but it’s not hard to imagine: President Trump, growing tired of the Russia investigation as it closes in on him, fires Robert S. Mueller III and moves to dismantle the Office of Special Counsel.

This would be a serious assault on the rule of law in the United States. The ability of the Department of Justice to enforce the laws would be in grave doubt. By now, Mr. Mueller has presumably amassed a great deal of evidence, some of which is highly classified, that may point toward serious crimes. Americans might reasonably wonder whether perpetrators, if they exist, would ever face justice.

We hope that such a constitutional crisis is unlikely. But if it does come to pass, there is a way that Mr. Mueller and his staff could prevent their important work from being permanently buried: They could become lawful whistle-blowers.

Many people think that exposing classified misconduct requires breaking the law. Not necessarily. If Mr. Mueller is fired, he and his team would not have to do anything illegal to disclose classified information and ensure that the American people learned the truth.

Here’s how it could work:

The moment he was dismissed, Mr. Mueller could lawfully take all the evidence he had collected — even the most highly classified materials — straight to Congress. If he personally lost access to the evidence, a remaining member of the Office of Special Counsel could do the same.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: witchhunt
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To: bigbob

There is no Constitutional crisis. Firing Mueller would be to acknowledge the Constitution as law of the land.


21 posted on 04/25/2018 1:43:51 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s a nightmare scenario, but it’s not hard to imagine: President Trump, growing tired of the Russia investigation as it closes in on him, fires Robert S. Mueller III and moves to dismantle the Office of Special Counsel.

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Sorry Slimes. But this IS hard to imagine. Trump is not going to do you any favors and throw that tar baby in the briar patch.

You idiots dug that grave yourself. You go deal with it.


22 posted on 04/25/2018 1:45:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“It’s a nightmare scenario”

Come on now, it’s their dream scenario, the stuff of all their fantasies.


23 posted on 04/25/2018 1:45:26 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (We)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Opinion, not news, but how can you tell the difference these days? Especially from the New York Times and the Washington Post whom daily engage in delusional fantasies such as this piece. To the extent that the assault and threat to the rule of law exists, it comes from the Department of Justice, the FBI, and other fortresses of bureaucrats who have decided that they can take the fate of the country into their own hands because they do not like the outcome of the 2016 election.

Whatever evidence may exist of misdeeds, it points to these unelected arrogant elites who decided to stage a coup de etat and reverse the legitimate result of a national election, not to the man who was the choice of the electorate. The New York Times presume to have their right and duty to nullify this election because their favored candidate, the rightful victor, was rejected by the American people. How dare they!

The American media has completely abandoned the notion of a watchdog and defender of democracy. They are now no more than a full partner of the elite left who have a right to rule by virtue of their superior intellect and moral righteousness. And, they can lie, cheat, steal, and murder anyone who stands in their way. Quite a show they are putting on.


24 posted on 04/25/2018 1:49:06 PM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018)
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To: Regulator

The Trend is now guilty until proven innocent.
“Prove it didn’t happen.” is the meme of the “Progressives” as in, “Not a single revelation in the Steele dossier has been refuted,” noted Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D)


25 posted on 04/25/2018 1:54:43 PM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: Regulator

What nonsense. Even the NYT doesn’t believe a word of it. They know full well that if the Mule had anything at all, the NYT would have been the first to know.


26 posted on 04/25/2018 1:56:27 PM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: griswold3

“Not a single revelation”

Note how the lie is made: if something is not true, how could it be a revelation?

The assumption of fact is made before any proof. And everyone is just supposed to internalize that.


27 posted on 04/25/2018 1:58:01 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

The problem with that analysis is that the evidence points to a shortage of fair minded people.


28 posted on 04/25/2018 2:02:21 PM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lets face it: Anyone who could write this article is functionally crazy. What are the odds such a person, dealing in purest delusion is ever going to see his fault? Zero odds. No, this will end very badly because utterly delusional pepole are convinced of their moral superiority. The wrong the author imputed to others he and his are entirely guilty of.


29 posted on 04/25/2018 2:09:05 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This would be a serious assault on the rule of law in the United State

No it would not. It would be a return to the rule of law. "Star Chamber" courts that operate outside Congressional oversight, like the "Special Councils" are a fundamental assault on the rule of law and our system of checks and balances. A "special council" operates out any level of Congressional over site and control. The law should be re-witted to requires a limited time frame for these out of control Prosecutions. It should monthly reporting from the Council to the Congress who should have the authority to revoke the Special Councils appointment once they demonstrate they have exceed their mandate or exhausted any reasonable possibility of fulfilling their function.

By any rational examination of the facts, as opposed to bigoted political hyper partisanship of the NY Times Editors, Muller "investigation" is a farce that was based on a fraud and politically tainted almost the day it started.

30 posted on 04/25/2018 2:09:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Drew68
"psst. Why haven't you fired Mueller yet?"

Exactly. The NYT it trying to bait Trump into firing Mueller.

31 posted on 04/25/2018 2:13:05 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This would be a serious assault on the rule of law in the United States. The ability of the Department of Justice to enforce the laws would be in grave doubt.

It already has, and it already is.

The blindness towards Democrats and the persecution of Trump associates should prove this.

-PJ

32 posted on 04/25/2018 2:13:07 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
By now, Mr. Mueller has presumably amassed a great deal of evidence, some of which is highly classified, that may point toward serious crimes.

If there was any evidence at all of a real crime, that would already have leaked. Mueller has presumably failed completely and is continuing to dig in the hope of creating a process crime to hold up as his justification for this circus. It's no wonder democrats have moved on to "Stormy" and for all I know "Melania's Hat" as their latest causes for outrage.

33 posted on 04/25/2018 2:27:54 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Regulator

The scary part is that there’s millions that hang on to this type of story, they actually believe it’s all going to end with PDJT in jail.

“...he’s closing in!!”

“...POTUS’ lawyer is turning on him”

“...Stormy Daniels will erode his base”

The internet has enabled people to live in an alternate reality, if they’ve not realized the media is just an extension of the DNC, they believe it is still “news”. Add to that the filtering and censoring of conservative views, they just get constant reinforcement they’ve all the “facts”.

It’s astonishing.


34 posted on 04/25/2018 2:29:47 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Russia investigation as it closes in on him”

I don’t know why NYT doesn’t just close up shop in our world and move to Bizarro World full time. They’d be much happier and make more money there ...


35 posted on 04/25/2018 2:32:24 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: chesley
The problem with that analysis is that the evidence points to a shortage of fair minded people.

That's true when it comes to the media, and the Washington swamp creatures and the professional politicians.

But in the rest of America, there was enough to elect Trump, and we're going to stick with him.

36 posted on 04/25/2018 2:32:43 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Mueller fails to find anything the Democratic Party should reimburse the federal government out of their campaign coffer.


37 posted on 04/25/2018 2:39:15 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvete)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Straight from Soros’ mouth and into the NY TIMES.


38 posted on 04/25/2018 2:39:16 PM PDT by MarvinStinson (<B>)
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To: Alas Babylon!

GOOD LIST.


39 posted on 04/25/2018 2:42:52 PM PDT by MarvinStinson (<B>)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Someone is pushing this “what if Trump fires Mueller” narrative. Would not surprise me if it was the corrupt FBI via an outfit like Fusion GPS.


40 posted on 04/25/2018 2:45:18 PM PDT by Flick Lives (F*ck the FBI)
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