Posted on 04/23/2018 6:27:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
In a piece for The Federalist entitled, “It’s Time For The United States To Divorce Before Things Get Dangerous,” writer and former Marine corp combat veteran Jesse Kelly ruffled more than a few feathers with his contention that the time for the United States as a united nation may be nearing an inevitable end.
Comparing the Left and Right in America to “the couple screaming at each other all night, every night as the kids hide in their room,” Kelly cites a congenial divorce as the best option for a country that’s “hopelessly divided” on seemingly every important issue. He even tweeted a helpful accompanying map with a hand-drawn red line ceding the Left coast and the northern states to the liberal governance they deserve.
In his piece, Kelly cites issues from gun control to border security, issues that, while both sides hopelessly disagree, will soon prompt increasingly intolerant Leftists to “start coming for the careers (and lives) of any normal American who sees things differently.”
“We both now agree that living under the other side’s value system is wholly unacceptable,” writes Kelly. “The most peaceful solution we Americans can hope for now is to go our separate ways. So let us come together one last time and agree on one thing: Irreconcilable differences.”
Naturally, Kelly’s idea drew quite a lot of criticism. HotAir’s Jazz Shaw pondered the legality, logistics and workability of such a proposal, but didn’t seem to take a lot of issue with the underlying inevitability.
CNN commentator Sally Kohn took him on when Kelly’s controversial piece earned him an appearance on HLN’s S.E. Cupp Unfiltered. “I’m sure we could find plenty to disagree about, but I actually think there’s quite a lot we could agree on,” said Kohn, citing values like “unity, but also free speech, free assembly, freedom of religion” as well as “the idea that we should all be able to live up to our God-given full potential.”
Except, liberals don’t believe in free speech, much less free assembly. And they don’t really believe in freedom of religion either, at least if you’re a Christian. And that “God” in “God-given?” Are you serious, Kohn?
California State Controller candidate Konstantinos Roditis penned a rebuttal of Kelly’s argument from the right, arguing for a return to real federalism instead of creating more countries. “Jesse, it’s not time for a divorce,” writes Roditis. “It’s time we rise up and take our country back and finally break the shackles of overbearing centralized government and go back to our roots of self-government and self-determination.”
Sounds great, in theory. Let’s ‘take our country back’ and establish REAL small government! Problem is, on what planet will liberals with an already burgeoning near-supermajority possibly allow something like this? After all, Big Government is how these people get stuff done.
While the non-legal arguments against Kelly’s hypothesis seem pretty weak, they say little about what would be best for all parties involved. To a kid who grew up in the 80’s, before unadulterated political correctness infested America’s schools, “Manifest Destiny,” the idea that our settlers were destined to spread all the way from the Atlantic to the Pacific, seemed more common sense and a source of pride to me than controversial and worthy of shame. And even now, the idea of America splitting up pulls at the heartstrings just a little.
But let’s face it, America will never again be the America we grew up in. Progressivism has ruined it, and likely beyond repair. Beyond the idea of a nation spreading its wings and conquering the wilderness is that of self-governance, of people being free to live in the kind of place, and under the kind of government, of their choosing, whether what they choose is limited, Constitutional government or utter liberal lunacy.
To Roditis’ point, the states were supposed to be the vehicle for that, under a limited federal government, but we all know how THAT turned out. If we aren’t going to do federalism right, perhaps divorce is the only way forward.
Interestingly, Bill Hammond tweeted a link to both Kelly’s Federalist piece and a Medium article entitled “The Great Lesson of California in America’s New Civil War” from the Left under the caption “These two articles should be hate-read in tandem.” In the Medium piece, Peter Leyden cites California’s example as the way forward for a divisive America. Except, rather than let conservatives pave their own way as Kelly would, Leyden wants to establish “Democratic, progressive supermajorities” in the rest of America.
In other words - tyranny. And make no mistake, if liberals seize control via supermajorities, and they aren’t all that far off, tyranny is how they enact their insane, unworkable policies on the rest of us. Because from Soviet Russia to Communist China and socialist Venezuela, that’s what always happens when Leftists have unadulterated power.
Granted, the idea of bringing up an issue that was seemingly settled over 150 years ago might be quick to dismiss, but in an era when people can’t even agree on whether Donald Trump is a real person or the actual, physical spawn of Satan, how can we possibly reach a consensus on anything? Which means that whatever we do, half the country isn’t just going to be unhappy, they’ll be apoplectic.
And these days, the idea isn’t just coming from the Right. The Calexit movement would secede California from the United States entirely, and it’s more financed and organized than you might think. Perhaps it’s time to give them what they want.
“[Conservatives’ reasons for splitting] would be a major cultural shift toward the left and half the country refusing to go along with tyranny,” writes Kelly. Liberals’ reasons might be a desire to run things their own way without the adults in the room interfering. But either way, the way I see it there are three possibilities for America’s future - unrest, tyranny, or divorce.
We’re already seeing the unrest, and it’s happening on a massive scale as liberals #Resist literally every move President Trump makes.
Should these jackals eventually get their “permanent Democratic majority,” we’ll certainly see the tyranny.
Which leaves the one other option, that put forward in Kelly’s controversial piece. Sure, it won’t be this year, or this decade, or probably even in my lifetime, but its eventual inevitability seems as ‘destined’ as America’s historic expansion to the Pacific.
And they do it at YOUR expense!
Well said.
We are mocked and belittled by the media,...
This cannot be overemphasized. We have a free press, but not even close to a fair press.
“Does he work for the Gov? On SS? SSI? Gov pension?”
Government informant? These insidious new Red Flag laws will make a lot of people into snitches.
This was inevitable once the original constitution was overthrown, the federal government broke free of all the restraints placed upon it and the states were reduced from being constitutional actors in their own right to being little more than administrative conveniences entirely subordinate to imperial Washington in all things.
If in our system we no longer allow Alabama to be Alabama and Vermont to be Vermont....that is two very different states with different histories, worldviews and laws, if we force everybody into one federal straitjacket, then everything is inevitably going to become a very nasty fight to determine which of our two broad tribes gets to impose its worldview on the other. That is exactly the situation today.
This has been inevitable since Appamattox. It was entirely foreseeable.
Robert E Lee in response to Lord Acton:
I yet believe that the maintenance of the rights and authority reserved to the states and the people not only essential to the adjustments and balance of the general system, but the safeguard to the continuance of a free government. I consider it as the chief source of stability to our political system, whereas the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it.
The Left and Right certainly have differences regarding (the size of) government, taxes, etc., but I think the real difference is the lack of God on the Left. I’m not judging anyone’s salvation — that’s for God — but it’s obvious the path the Left have chosen, and it’s not following Judeo/Christian values.
If we allow the Left to take over this country, we will most definitely reap what we’ve allowed to be sown. With all that said, I don’t want to see America split. We’ve come a loooong way as a country and we’re not through yet.
Some Americans, perhaps...by no means all. To paraphrase the late, great Bill Buckley, Libs are all for diversity of opinion...until they find it.
I believe you're engaged in wishful thinking, dreaming of an America which no longer exists.
Owns his own business. Does well for himself. So I also ask him - "are you wiling to pay more taxes too??"
Like I said, its very strange.
You're smokin' something, right? The left still HATES Reagan and they HATE Trump. They'd choose suicide before giving them credit.
And give us Nevada, and the following counties in CA: Orange, San Diego, Riverside, Imperial and San Bernardino. We do want a port on the Pacific with the rail lines to Texas...
Divorce.
“our obligation is to see that it does not turn to blows.”
No, our obligation is to see that Evil does not win. To shrink from blows is inexcusable cowardice.
Nukes are the game changer....who ever controls them can tyrannize the nation!
The Roman's got the jump on everyone with advanced metalurgy. It provided the means for not just weapons, but agricultural tools that greatly expanded yields and supported ever larger populations, many of whom then joined the legions. Yet they relaxed and rested on their laurels, instead of continuing to focus on firearms and other implements that would have allowed them complete control.
OK, back to today. Genetic research is yielding key clues into manifestations of gene expressions that influence everything from physical shape & appearance to intelligence and cognitive abilities. I think many would agree that the basis of our political divide is based on race & IQ. Solve these two issues, and the primary differences evaporate.
In a free market driven by both elective and selective gene therapies, which standard(s) of beauty and intelligence will predominate? The world isn't going to become more diverse; rather, the future suggests everyone will look & act the same.
The globalists still control most of the GOP.
Until we wrest control of at least one party from them, they will continue to swamp US (US citizens) with fraudulently documented foreigners.
BIG BUMP!
2020. Vote for and elect progressives and we will defer your $150,000 student loan debt payments you spent on a car, spring breaks in Florida, furniture, booze, weed, and a lousy college education you could have gotten at the public library for free.
What if Civil War II resulted in the same ratio of casualties to population as Civil War I?
In that case the number of dead and wounded today would be more than 11 million.
CIVIL WAR I
US Population In 1860: 32 million (approx)
Civil War Dead: 625,000(approx)
Civil War Wounded: 475,000 (approx)
Total Civil War Causualties (Dead & Wounded) 1,100,000
Civil War Causualties As Percent of 1860 Population 3.44%CIVIL WAR II
US Population In 2017: 326,000,000 (approx)
3.44% Of 2017 Population: 11,171,875
“Lets fight it out over time at the ballot box”
That’s how it works. So we need to be very concerned with who gets to vote.
So here is what you do:
1. Write down three names of men you thoroughly know, implicitly trust, and who are like-minded.
2. Meet in private and ask them to each bring in three men of the same ilk.
3. Keep repeating the process. It's your new hobby.
4. Choose activities to meet. Bowling, fishing, shooting, whatever.
5. Keep EVERYTHING off the internet. I said everything. Your communication is sneakernet, SIGNAL and burner phones that were purchased in cash from another county from a mom and pop store.
Congrats. You just formed a militia that cannot be detected and cannot be penetrated.
The solution is obvious. We retake our country then use a foolproof test to determine who the leftists are who caused this problem then give them all frontal lobotomies of a sort. Find that part of their brain that’s damaged and burn it out. If they survive they will hopefully be intelligent enough to do the menial labor work needed like gathering shopping carts, picking up trash along the roads, clean toilets, etc. etc.
They can’t be re-trained into normal thinking people so this kind of radical action must happen. Plan B is they all are forced to emigrate to a country of their choosing who will accept them. I’m sure much of Europe would be interested rather than take the cavemen/women from Syria and Africa.
The fact is these people have been brainwashed from an early age. There really is no fixing them so something radical must happen to correct it. Plan on going to war with them within a generation. They will never give up. If it were up to me; Plan A would be the best option but give them the option of Plan B.
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