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1 dead after jetliner apparently blows an engine in flight
Assoc. Press ^ | 4/17/2018 | AP

Posted on 04/17/2018 1:45:49 PM PDT by T-Bird45

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To: Sontagged

You really don’t understand aircraft fuel systems or the physics of compressed air, do you?

British Airways Flight 38 in 2008 crashed due to frozen fuel, not frozen compressed air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_38

Why did UA Flight 232 burst into flames on touchdown, if it wasn’t full of fuel?


261 posted on 04/18/2018 2:51:30 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Sontagged
I cannot disprove anything they are saying.

That's why you should familiarize yourself with the operation of turbojet and turbofan engines; do your research from multiple sources, not just the ones promoting this "air compression combine theory".

Do you know the differences among the following types of aircraft engines?

1) Turbojet
2) Turbofan
3) Tubosprop

Can you distinguish between a turboshaft engine and a free turbine engine (hint: two types of Turboprop)?

I'm going to guess that the answer is "No" and "No". And that's OK; its not your field of expertise. But you can get a non-professional's working understanding of these topics by your own research on the internet. Do that, and you'll be ready to address the problems with that video you linked for me.

"Wikipedia" is not a bad place to start.

262 posted on 04/18/2018 2:57:47 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: mabarker1

LOL!


263 posted on 04/18/2018 3:05:19 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Like I said, looking for answers, but don’t blame me for the questions.

Me dumb on this.

But thank you for taking the time to answer me.


264 posted on 04/18/2018 3:50:22 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: NorthMountain

Thanks, may I ping you with a question in the future?


265 posted on 04/18/2018 3:51:13 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

If the theory that modern airplanes run on compressed air rather than kerosene were actually true, there’s a lot of empty railroad cars and fuel trucks out there going through the charade of putting fuel into airplanes.

Everyone participating in that charade would somehow have to be enforceably sworn to secrecy that they were putting on an act rather than actually moving fuel.

Do you think that’s actually credible?


266 posted on 04/18/2018 4:00:05 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

After Obama, conspiracy theories became reality, so I am testing these things out. The videos are pretty compelling about using Tesla type perpetual motion air compressors or whatever they are called on planes, and then charging people for fuel.

I mean, if that tech existed, why not use it? The hoax would be getting people to pay for the fuel you are not using, and I can imagine a lot of people would keep their mouths shut for the sake of their paychecks.

It’s actually fun to try to put these theories to the test in the age of the lying Uniparty Globalists... are they also hoaxing us out of more of our hard earned cash on airplanes? It’s harmless armchair theorizing, but with a big payoff if you can actually prove this stuff.


267 posted on 04/18/2018 4:23:20 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Ol’ Nick may have been a plenty-smart guy, but nobody’s smart enough to do the impossible.


268 posted on 04/18/2018 5:40:10 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mabarker1

.... LOL !


269 posted on 04/18/2018 10:46:10 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Sontagged
may I ping you with a question

sure.

270 posted on 04/19/2018 3:35:44 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

When I worked for PWA, the first stage of the axial LPC (Low Pressure Compressor) on high-bypass turbofan engines was always the fan. Recall that the the fan blades have a mid-span shroud, roughly positioned at the interface between the LPC inlet and the bypass duct.


271 posted on 04/19/2018 10:01:26 AM PDT by JME_FAN
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To: Psalm 73

When I write of “failures” - I am referring to intentional failures - blade out, bird strike, ice ingestion, and over-cooling the turbine case to cause it to impinge upon the turbine blades and create a sudden engine stoppage.

I’ve witnessed a PW2037 literally rip itself from the front engine mount, pivot downward on the rear mounts, , then slam fan case first onto the test house floor ... and the damn engine kept running, until the diffuser case flange bolts fractured, spinning it 180 degrees.

You could see the engineers literally sh*t their pants!

I’ve seen fan blades blown out at the hub root - and watch a Kevlar-wrapped steel containment case elongate into an ellipsoid, whose long axis then proceeds to revolve about the center axis of engine.

I’ve watch compressor stalls, where the fireball shoots 30 feet beyond the engine inlet, then explodes rearward out the turbine exhaust duct, so loudly you’d think bombs were going off.


272 posted on 04/19/2018 10:19:57 AM PDT by JME_FAN
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To: JME_FAN
"...intentional failures..."

I mainly worked production, but we did share some of the test cells with R&D. I've only lost two engines myself (one was a compressor blade ingestion, the other was a DECU failure that fried the hot section).

Thanks for the post reply - brings back memories of my younger years. I work in a nice quiet office now (that I'm old and grey).

273 posted on 04/19/2018 10:55:55 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: Psalm 73

I relate to “old and grey.”

I worked 2 years in PWA’s Production Test, almost exclusively on military engines: F100, TF30, TF33, J52. Then 4 years in Experimental Assembly and Test, working: JT9D, PW2037, V2500, and PW4000 series engines.

Later in my career, I did 9 years in an overhaul shop, on various JT8D engines, from the early models (-11, -15, -17) up to the -200 high-bypass series. I also worked on GG4 and FT4 industrial gas generators and free turbines.

Spent another 8 years on the flight line, working everything from corporate hot rods to commercial passenger and cargo heavies.

Eventually, my body began telling me “Son, you just can’t treat me this way any longer.”

I still have the Snap-On tools and roll-away, but my days working aviation are long since passed - thank God!


274 posted on 04/19/2018 12:29:06 PM PDT by JME_FAN
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To: sparklite2

:)


275 posted on 04/20/2018 1:09:25 PM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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To: Enchante

To: bagster
Well I truly would be thrilled if all/most of the Q stuff turns out to be real.

664 posted on 5/5/2018, 6:47:12 PM by Enchante

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3652490/posts?page=664#664


276 posted on 05/06/2018 8:40:58 AM PDT by edzo4 (Enchante to Bagster: Well I truly would be thrilled if all/most of the Q stuff turns out to be real")
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