Posted on 04/15/2018 6:34:25 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
Democratic lawmakers want to take the state's tight gun control laws and expand them outside of New Jersey's borders.
There's new legislation that would ban state-sponsored travel to any states that don't require their residents to obtain a permits before they purchase a firearm.
The goal is to send a message to the National Rifle Association, said State Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg, the bill's sponsor.
"Fighting the NRA on the basis logic and rational thinking has not worked," Weinberg, D-Bergen, said. "So I think the thing that might work is fighting them with their pocketbook."
(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...
yes, all brain dead.....
New Jersey stands to save a lot of money in plane and train tickets by this action. It is a good idea.
So by the names in the article there, we can assume that New Jersey is in Germany.
This stage travel ban strategy will play out very quickly. Too many states with too many disparate demands. The cost of compliance is too high for minimal rewards. And when push comes to shove, like in the NCAA tournament, the boycotters always fold.
I live in New Jersey, for the time being.
The rules for transport in NJ:
1. NJ Compliant weapons only
2. NJ Firearms ID Card must be on person
3. All guns locked with gun locks
4. Guns locked in a case
5. Ammunition locked in a separate case
6. All guns and ammo must be locked in the trunk, inaccessible by the driver or anyone in the car.
7. No stops for anything but gas.
8. Never leave guns unattended in the vehicle.
Violation of any one of these rules can get you ten years.
If you drive a car that does not have a locking trunk, like a hatchback or a car that has a pass-through in the back seat, you cannot legally transport in NJ.
My local police chief assures me that he has no objection to a gun in the hatchback portion of my car, as long as the luggage hiding platform is in place, but he is not sure how other jurisdictions might treat this. I keep the keys for all of the locking cases in a key-hider under the hood, so I have no access while in the car. Hopefully that will keep me out of jail.
I also live in NJ and I am active in the gun community.
You have made several errors.
1. Correct
2. NJ Firearms Purchaser ID confers no legality to carry or possession of handguns outside of the exemptions. It does confer legality to long guns to carry in places outside of the exemptions. It is a PURCHASER ID, not an Owners ID. Is is possible to buy and own handguns in NJ and transport them legally without ever having obtained a FPID. It is also possible to move into NJ with NJ legal firearms and transport them legally.
3. Not correct. There are no rules or statutes requiring gun locks.
4. Also not true. I can quote you the statutes, but a securely tied package also qualifies.
5. Ammunition separate is not required. What is required while transporting is “Unloaded”. There is no case law on what that means specifically.
6. Locked in trunk is true, inaccessible is also true. You can transport in open vehicles as long as it is inaccessible. Pass through trunks and whatnot are not dis-qualifiers.
7. The language says “reasonable deviation”. Christie tried to fix the language but the legislature didn’t allow it. Gas is reasonable, a 3 hour full course dinner is not. Everything in between is up for debate.
8. There is no specific prohibition on leaving guns in a vehicle nor is there case law.
You can go ahead and argue with me. I will tell you that I’ve spent the last 10 years educating people on these laws and if you’re going to contradict me, you will need to provide the statute number and cite because I know them by heart.
“There’s new legislation that would ban state-sponsored travel to any states that don’t require their residents to obtain a permits before they purchase a firearm.”
Oh no, the horror of it all...say it ain’t so! No New Jersey pukes coming to normal states?
“Maybe some of those states should just refuse to take any more of New Jerseys garbage and hazardous waste.”
NJ should be the nation’s garbage dump. It already is partially there.
“Maybe some of those states should just refuse to take any more of New Jerseys garbage and hazardous waste.”
NJ should be the nation’s garbage dump. It already is partially there.
“She is an elderly liberal lady.”
She is an elderly liberal lizard.
“I’m good with this.
Every state that still loves freedom should retaliate and ban state-sponsored travel to Commie Pinko NJ.”
No normal people would go to NJ on their own volition anyway.
Hollow point/expanding ammunition?
“__Meaningless virtue signaling that could backfire if gun owners decide to boycott NJ.”
Not that anyone was planning an escape weekend to Bayonne, Camden, Newark etc anyhow.
“Whatta laff. No one will miss them, it’ll be a relief that they don’t come to your state.”
That’s how I see it too. Born, bred, live in Texas (God Bless Texas) and NJ thinks I care whether their state employees come here or not? They’re having a wet dream. Same goes for the rest of those little bitty states up there. Go pound sand....
“__Meaningless virtue signaling that could backfire if gun owners decide to boycott NJ.”
Not that anyone was planning an escape weekend to Bayonne, Camden, Newark etc anyhow.
Well it IS the chemical waste-dump of the United States so ...........
The culture of the Garden State has shifted radically, especially in the 1960s and thereafter. Until that time, New Jersey had been a relative island of low taxes and personal liberty compared with New York and Pennsylvania. Granted, the state had plenty of dirty politicians like Nucky Johnson and Frank Hague, as well as Mafia activity, but, it was still culturally and politically conservative. That is the case no longer. New Jersey, like California, has entirely gone to the dark side.
New Jersey is pretty when you stay away from the urban areas.
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