Posted on 04/03/2018 2:34:31 PM PDT by marktwain
At about 5:30 p.m. on Thursday, 22 March, 2018, in St. Paul, Minnesota, a 39-year-old man arranged to meet a man to purchase an iPhone X. The sale turned out to be a pretext for an armed robbery. One report says the seller stuck a gun in the side of the would-be buyer, then robbed him as he was counting out $500 for the purchase.
The meeting was arranged on Facebook. From cbslocal.com:
Police say a suspect is in custody after a permit-to-carry holder in St. Paul shot him during an armed robbery.
According to St. Paul Police, it happened at around 5:30 p.m. Thursday on the 1100 block of Rice Street. Kendrick Johnterious Maddox, 18, had arranged to sell an iPhone X via Facebook and was meeting with the buyer. When the man was counting out the cash, police say Maddox pulled out a gun and took the money.
The would-be buyer had a carry permit and a .357 revolver. He drew his revolver and fired at the armed robbery suspect. Accounts do not say how many times he fired. One online commenter claimed the victim fired three times, citing listening to news stories. The victim fired at least once and hit the suspect in the foot. The suspect fled. A man matching the description turned up at a local hospital for a gunshot wound. From twincities.com:
The buyer began counting out $500, when the seller pulled a firearm and robbed him. The buyer pulled his own .357 revolver and shot the man, who ran away.
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Shot placement, not caliber is the real key.
This instance is a case in point.
I don't think a .357 hole in the foot heals (or was it a .38 fired from a .357?), at least not with all bones present. I imagine the surgeon will remove a hundred bone slivers and this thug will limp for life plus be permanently slow. I'm okay with that, although I wish the victim had been a better aim.
. 357 can’t beat it.
There are fast burning powders, like Bullseye and Red Dot, that might work out better in a snubbie.
I’m considering purchasing a revolver.
What would you suggest?
.357 Magnum. The gun that cooks and kills.
Oh and that’s not racist? All Irishmen are drunks?
He needs to resign tomorrow :)
“Shot placement, not caliber is the real key. “
Cops are less accurate with 9’s and 40’s?
Maybe so. All their training today centers around speed.
For good reason.
If you go with one of those 158 or 125 gr ammo will have pretty heavy recoil.
Just bought 90'gr Hornady Critical Defense Lite for Mom and Dad's S&W.
Very manageable recoil.
Aim for center of mass next time.
In this case 357 tops 500.
Thank you very much!
Was looking at the Governor but at your recommendation I’ll start with something a little lighter first.
My 1st handgun was a 586.
.357 Mag is no joke.
My 1st handgun was a 586.
.357 Mag is no joke.
Whoops
——Johnterious-—
Very bad Latin
Dan Wesson with the snubbie is a warm and fuzzy little ball of fire every time! I have stuck with the 125 XTPs for consistency as the 110s are not available as much. I fell in love with Winchester 231 at 7.5 grains. It chronos out between 1150 and 1200 fps everytime with a respectable report and very manageable recoil for me. Its not near as messy as Unique. Any more power or weight with the snubbie and she starts to twist and buck and spit more fire. Reducing the barrel to cylinder clearance from .005” to .003” will cut down on the cylinder flaring a bit more but requires closer attention to detail and a bit more cleaning to keep things running smoothly. It also makes every round fired more consistent to the last. Thats right when I stopped messing with the load/setup and started using it for everyday carry.
My dad had this pistol pack set up for long range silhouette shooting when it was big last century. Then the lady set neglected for a long while. The snubbie was never even used until I started carrying it a few years back. Its harder to make little tiny bullets shoot as accurately as the 158 and 180gr bullets. 1 1/2” barrel is not much rifling purchase compared to 6 or 8” barrel. And the fireball never actually touches your hands but it does take a little getting used to.
I love the little lady in this configuration. Small, light, very concealable, everyday carry revolver that still packs a wallop!
Maybe so. All their training today centers around speed.
You miss the point.
It doesn't matter what caliber you're carrying.
Shooting someone in the foot will almost never result in a life-threatening wound, no matter whether you're shooting a 9mm, .40, .45 or, in this instance, .357 magnum.
You be the fastest gun in the west, but it won't make any difference if you can't hit your intended target.
Just novelties in my opinion.
.44 Mag or .357 Mag are great but too heavy recoil for a lightweight gun and you lose any velocity gain with the short barrel.
With those calibers you'll be happier with an steel frame and at least a 4" barrel.
Id suggest you look at used .357 magnum revolvers from reputable manufacturers. Theres a wide variety of sizes to fit every hand. Find one that fits you well, have it looked at by a competent gunsmith, and then test fire it if possible.
The nice thing about a .357 is it can chamber the .38 Spl cartridge too.
Sorry but thats about the best I can do. There are dozens and dozens of choices so without knowing anything about you I cant give any meaningful advice.
Good luck.
L
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