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Since three-quarters of the nation’s direct care workers are U.S. citizens, then “these are clearly not ‘jobs that Americans won’t do,’” argued David Ray, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which supports more restrictive immigration policies. The U.S. has 6.7 million unemployed people, he noted. If the health care industry can’t find anyone to replace workers who lose TPS and DACA, he said, “then it needs to take a hard look at its recruiting practices and compensation packages. There are clearly plenty of workers here in the US already who are ready and willing to do the work.”

especially in large cities.

Note how no mention of the fact that most of this is Medicare and Medicaid money. Only a small part is private money and LTC insurance.

Those tough on immigration need to solve (at least partially solve) this problem. Currently ex-cons are one major source of citizen workers for LTC-Long Term Care and HH-Home Health. Should we increase the steering of convicts into this field? They have a higher rate of abuse in this field than do immigrants.

Work US Citizens won't do needs to be taken seriously. If the working poor did not have so much taken out for their, and their employer's, payroll taxes, they would have more attraction to working. If welfare programs did not pay more than the take home pay of the working poor, then more would work and not go on welfare.

And are the elderly and disabled expecting too much of the workers? Should we just tell more elderly and disabled Sorry. There is nobody paid to help you?

Would the church and Christians and Jews and humanists who claim to care show up and do more volunteer work?

1 posted on 03/26/2018 9:08:05 AM PDT by spintreebob
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Women, children and the elderly hurt worse.


2 posted on 03/26/2018 9:11:58 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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Rule of Law or Not?

I choose rule of law.

Remove ALL illegal aliens.


3 posted on 03/26/2018 9:12:43 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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I have family and friends who are “immigrants.”

People being lost to laws are only illegals. NOT immigrants.

Take back the language!!


4 posted on 03/26/2018 9:12:51 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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“There aren’t people to replace them if they should all be deported,” McCarthy said.

If they are here legally, they won't be departed. What a bunch of crap.

5 posted on 03/26/2018 9:13:37 AM PDT by norcal joe
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I wonder if illegal immigrants working in health care conforms to HIPAA laws.


7 posted on 03/26/2018 9:15:15 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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The elites rely on the cheap labor express. Temporary Protective Status means “permanent” to these vermin.


10 posted on 03/26/2018 9:19:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Kaiser - another deep state, bought-and-paid-for crony capitalist organization who sold themselves for Obamacare.


11 posted on 03/26/2018 9:20:11 AM PDT by PGR88
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What do all of these illegal healthcare workers use for a SS number?

I’m confused.

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13 posted on 03/26/2018 9:21:32 AM PDT by Mears
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OMG. Who is going to mow my lawn? Fix my roof? Bus the tables?


14 posted on 03/26/2018 9:21:47 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (We have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.)
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Well now. This IS a clever spin. Had not heard this lame approach before.

Trump wants to deport all illegals. Leaving no one to care for poor old Mom and Dad.

Gee. How heartless.


16 posted on 03/26/2018 9:23:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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Dad had LTC insurance that provided enough per day for me to have coverage for about 12 hours depending on how much I paid.
I never had to hire illegal immigrants. And I rarely had trouble finding anyone to work.

However, I did worry about the fact that the solutions I proposed for our country, closing the border, restricting immigration, deportation of illegals, tariffs to bring the good jobs back home, all of which would raise wages, would directly impact me in a negative way because of the caregivers.

Didn’t stop me from proposing what was right for the country.
I want wages for everyone to go up, including the poorest of our working poor. Is that going to hurt employers. Depends. If you are selling more, you can offset that cost. If you have no revenue like elderly needing caregivers, then yes, it’s going to hurt.

But maybe the end result is that more people can afford LTC insurance, and LTC insurance can afford to pay a higher amount.

Anytime you change anything in the economy. Somebody wins and somebody loses. Our country will be better off. Elderly on fixed incomes, probably not.


17 posted on 03/26/2018 9:25:05 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Care givers?

One most strongly suspects (if examined on a net basis) that illegal aliens "take" ever so much more than they "give" to our society;

...and, that their presence is ever so much more of a "cost" in terms of services provided to them, money benefits provided to them, and outright theft of our very fine (but fragile) language and culture.

As just one example, illegal aliens are not helping our senior citizens by crowding them out of hospital emergency rooms.

18 posted on 03/26/2018 9:25:51 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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As a seasoned citizen, I’m not worried. Our free market system will find a way to fill that gap, hopefully with US Citizens, which will give them employment instead of welfare handouts at tax payers expense.

It’s just a win win.

I don’t give a rats rear end about illegals being chased out.

I also don’t care about Kalifornia losing migrant workers, which was another issue recently brought up. This is what got the whole mess going in the first place. Again, technology and/or the free market system will find a cure.


19 posted on 03/26/2018 9:28:47 AM PDT by redfreedom
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The Health Care industry charges obscene amounts of money in those caregiver facilities. Most of it is paid by the gov and insurance companies. The owners and executives reap profits beyond the wildest imagination. The workerbees get near slave-labor wages, because of the access to cheap immigrant labor, illegal, legal, and legal only because they own congresscritters.

If these facilities paid a decent, living wage, those jobs would be filled by US citizens. The owners and execs would make less money. Where's the downside?

20 posted on 03/26/2018 9:31:35 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and ProMy ud of It!)
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"Would the church and Christians and Jews and humanists who claim to care show up and do more volunteer work?"

Are you suggesting that people of faith should work for free?

21 posted on 03/26/2018 9:35:30 AM PDT by semaj (U\)
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Many work in health care, often in grueling, low-wage jobs as nursing assistants or home health aides...

Translation. The slave labor workforce has been taken away.


23 posted on 03/26/2018 9:36:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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I’m among the elderly.......I’ll be just fine!!!!


27 posted on 03/26/2018 9:41:03 AM PDT by ontap
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America got by for more than 200 years without surly, incompetent illegal aliens to give second rate care to our parents and grandparents.


32 posted on 03/26/2018 9:53:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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They’ve been on “Temporary” status since 2010. Eight years have passed. It’s far past time for them to start on their citizenship, and time for them to go home.


33 posted on 03/26/2018 10:02:19 AM PDT by wbill
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Utter nonsense

May be true in Cali. Isn’t in other places


34 posted on 03/26/2018 10:05:02 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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