Posted on 03/25/2018 2:13:19 PM PDT by Innovative
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has urged lawmakers to give President Trump a line-item veto, saying on “Fox News Sunday” that it might prevent Democrats from stacking more nondefense discretionary spending into the next must-past budget bill. But Mnuchin’s short exchange with Fox News anchor Chris Wallace also underlined the problem with the idea — a 20-year-old Supreme Court ruling that struck down the line-item veto, finding “no provision in the Constitution that authorizes the president to enact, to amend or to repeal statutes,” after President Bill Clinton used it 82 times.
“I think they should give the president a line-item veto,” said Mnuchin, echoing Trump’s comments after he signed last week’s omnibus budget bill.
“That’s been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court,” Wallace said.
“Well, again, Congress could pass a rule, okay, that allows them to do it,” Mnuchin said.
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Congress needs to get their act together and pass it.
No. Congress cannot delegate its power to legislate to the executive.
Its called the separation of powers.
Only way to give the President item-line veto is to amend the Constitution.
Yeah, well, they COULD pass it.
And they COULD pass term limits and a pay cut for themselves....
But they aren’t about to limit their powers by doing so.
Correct.
They will never give him this. Get real.
Article III, Section 2. Paragraph 2: In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
Actually, the Congress did pass a line item veto, but it was held by the Supreme Court to violate to Presentment Clause.
They also said the President can’t impound funds, despite Thomas Jefferson himself being the first to do so.
“No. Congress cannot delegate its power to legislate to the executive.”
lolol. See our 4 trillion dollar ‘administrative state’.
Is Mnuchin not aware that Congress did pass a line item veto when Clinton was in office and the Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional? Really?
It was tried and found unconstitutional in the Clinton v. City of New York case. I know Breyer dissented and Scalia partially dissented. There may be something in the decision and dissent that Mnuchin believes could guide an acceptable statute.
Is it really the executive legislating a bill?
The bill arrives at his desk and if there's unnecessary expenditures he picks them out and sends it back to Congress. More or less just a refined version of the standard veto.
Ross Perot used a great analogy in one of his TV presentations. That a bill begins as something good in Congress and then pork gets tacked onto it like rhinestones. The President should be able to pull out the rhinestones.
“Never going to happen. Violates separation of powers, so saith SCOTU”
Who violated the separation of powers in ‘defining’ what the legislative and executive can and cannot do under the Constitution. Irony.
Yup. They should tell the busy body black-robed tyrants to stuff it. They don’t get to define the roles of the legislative and the executive branch under the constitution.
I shudder to think what Trump will give up next in exchange for this added power. And we’re just handing that power over to a one termed anyway. What happens after that?
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No. Congress cannot delegate its power to legislate to the executive.
Its called the separation of powers.
Only way to give the President item-line veto is to amend the Constitution.
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Nor did We approve of Congress doing the same via bureaucracy (if they had ANY A1S8 authority to begin). Yet, the Courts see no issue there, eh?
At least the Presidency is an elected office. “...sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”....hmmm, rings a bell
I concur though, the Const. is solid on this point. Pres. can sign or veto; and here w/ this, yet another, Omni-craptastic, he should have done the latter.
Secretary Mnuchin should be tossed for even suggesting a ‘rule’ (aka skirt the Law\Constitution). Can’t ‘play’ w/in the rules? Get ejected from the ‘game’.
>> What happens after that?
This rule would apply only to the current President. After that, there’s a sunset.
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Ross Perot used a great analogy in one of his TV presentations. That a bill begins as something good in Congress and then pork gets tacked onto it like rhinestones. The President should be able to pull out the rhinestones.
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I can’t remember the last time a bill BEGAN in Congress that was ‘good’ (aka before it ‘became’ a steaming pile).
Problem w/ your analogy, and this topic in general, is when said pork is the ONLY think un-plucked.
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