Posted on 03/22/2018 9:00:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
California is a part of America. But its no longer American. It is a foreign state. It is a fugitive state. The U.S. Constitution and the rule of law no longer apply in California. Call it, The Peoples Socialist Republic of California. Its a state without a country. But its certainly no longer American in any way.
Liberals in California want to secede. They are trying to put it on the ballot. They call it Calexit. I say, Glory Hallelujah." Lets help make it happen. I propose 63 million Trump voters join the team. Let's work 24/7 to turn their dream into a reality!
Millions of illegal aliens live in California; drive in California with official state-issued drivers licenses; and of course, use those licenses to vote in California. Millions. Thats precisely how Hillary won California by over 4 million votes.
California supports illegal aliens over legal, law-abiding American citizens. They support illegals getting free college tuition, while children of native-born Americans pay full fare. They support illegals over police and ICE. Many liberals in California want to abolish ICE. They want no borders and no immigration law.
The Attorney General of California has warned any business owner who cooperates with ICE will face prosecution by the state of California. You heard correctly. California will put the business owner in prison, for cooperating with federal law, to protect the criminal breaking the law.
The Mayor of Oakland famously played Paul Revere to warn illegal felons ICE is coming. ICE is coming. The Feds report over 800 felons evaded arrest because of that stunt. How many legal, law-abiding, native-born Americans will be robbed, raped, or murdered in the coming weeks because of that act of sedition?
A California judge just sided with the ACLU and barred LA County from enforcing gang restrictions that dramatically lowered crime. California has once again sided with hoodlums and gang-bangers over the law-abiding taxpayers.
In Oakland, a coffee shop prohibits employees from serving police, in order to create a safe space for their customers. Californians hate and distrust police more than illegal felons and thugs who speak no English and wear gang tattoos. Really.
All of this is sheer madness. But California has taken it to a whole new level.
Just this week the California Senate appointed the first-ever illegal alien to an official statewide post. Lizbeth Mateo, a 33-year old illegal alien-turned-attorney, will serve on the official state committee that doles out money to illegals attending college. In California, illegals now decide how taxpayer money is spent.
President Trump loves to brand (see "Crooked Hillary"). Lets brand California. Its not a Sanctuary State. Its a Fugitive State. Its a place that chooses to let felons and fugitives run free. Its a place where the rights of criminals are far more important than protecting legal, law-abiding American citizens who pay taxes. We are the second class citizens in California.
Heres the way to fix the problem. Liberal Californians want to secede. I'm joining the movement. How about you?
Conservatives should beg California to secede. We should make it easy for them. We should help pay for it. Pass the hat. Every conservative should chip in $20. Ill throw $1000 to get the ball rolling.
Just think of elections. Without California, Trump and all future Republican presidential candidates would win, without breaking a sweat. Without California, wed easily win the popular vote. And we'd win the electoral vote by a landslide.
Next think of Congress. California has 53 House seats. Democrats lead 39-14, for a net gain of 25 seats. Send California packing and the GOP gains a 25 House seat lead. We would dominate the House for decades to come.
And of course, the GOP would gain an automatic two seats in the Senate through the subtraction of California. As it stands now, those two U.S. Senate seats are deep blue Democrat forever. But if California secedes a 51-49 GOP lead instantly moves to 51-47.
If 63 million Trump voters just gave an average of $20 each to the "Calexit movement" thats over $1.2 billion dollars. Thats enough money to help California secede, with enough left over as a down payment on building a wall
with California.
Just visualize: being rid of Pelosi and Feinstein, and all the other looneys who rule California. And don’t forget Moonbeam.
”Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.”
Send in the National Guard. President Trump: DO YOUR JOB! Enforce the Constitution; if this isn’t an “invasion” what the hell is?!?!?
I do’t like the idea of CA seceding because many of our most important defense and trade facilities are located there and because it rewards millions of thieves for their crimes; indeed,it consummates those very crimes. Instead, the Federal government needs to buck u[p and start enforcing the law, and enforcing it rigorously. Indeed, it ought to be treated the way the formerly Confederate states were treated during Reconstruction until it”s straightened out.
Why bother giving Republicans the edge on CA’s departure? What difference would we see? How about the military bases in California? Especially around San Diego and Ft Irwin? What of Hawaii if California goes, almost certainly Hawaii would as well. Possibly Washington and Oregon too. Can we afford to lose the whole Pacific Coast except Alaska? No, of course not. Secession is not allowed now just like it wasnt allowed before. Money talks and if Trump wants their attention, turn off every federal dollar and tell the courts to force him to turn it back on. Declare California in rebellion and he would have great leeway to do what needed to be done.
No they will do whatever it takes to make sure that doesn’t happen.
I am not opposed to states leaving the union in the same way they joined. I’m also familiar with the Virginia ratification convention and don’t recall an express right to secede.
Can you point to a secession document from the ratifying convention?
Jefferson Counties are close to ready to to spin up a State government organization, now.
Usconstitution.net
Virginias ratification
.....do in the name of and on behalf of the people of Virginia declare and make known that the powers granted under the constitution being derived from the people of the United States May be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression and that every power not granted thereby remains with them and at their will..........
NY and Rhode Island also expressly reserved the right to secede (resume the powers of government was the phrase they used. Think about it. It was just 8 years after they gained their independence after an 8 year war. They were not about to just give up their hard won sovereignty and bind themselves forever under what everybody considered an experiment that they didnt know would work or not.
Put up a fence, don’t allow the ‘Rats to metastasize out of The Socialist State of California into the United States of America and go for it.
I expect that as soon as California, or any part of it secedes, they will start selling their sea ports to every Communist, Marxist, Terrorist country they can get a bid from.
They will open our nation to its enemies in the fastest, most efficient manner possible. While cheering.
I’m not a Republican ... I’m ... for the most part ... a constitutional originalist. As far as refugee’s ... As I said any TRUE America loving conservative is welcome over the Arizona border. However, I live in a border town, and have a lot of opportunity to run into a great many Kalifornians. Many who are visiting our border town say and think they are conservative ... after a few minutes discussion with them it becomes obvious that measured on an Arizona scale ... they are flaming liberals. There is a lot more to be said but bottomline ... Though I personally cannot speak for the entire state of Arizona I know enough people in the north west corner of the state to say with some confidence that LIBERALs and/or FAUX conservative are NOT welcome in Arizona. We Zonies don’t take kindly to having our state Kalifornicated by Kalif Liberals and their demented politics. That being said ... I too am a Kalif refugee. Born and raised in the Santa Cruz Bay area. I escaped in 2010 to Phoenix (and I thank myself every day for it) mainly to escape the liberal politics and their policies. I sure don’t want those politics following me here.
Secede?
I vote YES!
Where do I donate?
That’s my concern. As much as it sounds nice to just let them go and leave us alone, the problem is they wouldn’t. They would, as you said, become the next Venezuela, and would probably end up inviting Communist China or Russia to be their protector. They would end up invading nearby states with the premise of “liberating” them, and within a few years we would have a Vietnam morass right in our own backyard.
If Trump doesn’t take seriously the insane brainwashing of our younger generations by public education and higher “education” all across our land, and the additional insane brainwashing being done by the media, then we are done for. We have traitorous enemies in our land, pushing for our downfall. It doesn’t matter what our economy does in the short term, if we don’t clean the vipers out of the influence makers of our society.
I agree. They would do that so fast it would make your head spin.
We need to think of this as a foreign enemy invasion, orchestrated by domestic enemies within our country.
In Trust Law, ownership or benefits must vest within a certain time period. This is actually called the “Rule Against Perpetuities.”
Also, Florida state law specifically defines “perpetuity” with a maximum number of years for different issues and circumstances.
Bottom Line...
Did the authors and signers of the Constitution actually have the legal authority to perpetually bind each state to the “United States,” and to use force of arms or economic sanctions to force a rebellious state to stay in the Union?
Congress can call out militia to put down insurrections and enforce statutes.
A state convention to leave the Union is not insurrection.
I’m not a lawyer either. Better than that, we are well-informed citizens.
Affirmative sir. Back to that tropical paradise, to sit on the beach, sipping cool drinks, and doing karaoke. 👌👍
The split is more East-West than North-South. The problem, though is that some of those inland counties don't have many people.
Not all of CA is wacked; not even all of LA.
True.
Every presidential election the county in the whole country that gives the most votes to the Democrats is Los Angeles county.
But so is the county that gives the most votes to Republicans (and Libertarians and Greens).
There are that many people in Los Angeles County.
One third of the state votes for Republicans in presidential elections. Sometimes less, as in 2016. Sometimes more.
I don't know how representative California's politicians are of the average citizen.
How can I help? Please let me know.
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