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1 posted on 03/13/2018 8:19:22 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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2 posted on 03/13/2018 8:21:33 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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This morning feels identical to November 8.

A LOT of talk about how Lamb is the moderate democrat that appeals to us SW Pennsylvanians and Saccone is a firm, conservative republican but ran a lackluster campaign.

Hillary by a landslide

3 posted on 03/13/2018 8:24:00 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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Too early to tell from my perspective, though I have to say I’m not all that optimistic (hope I’m proven wrong).

I voted around 7AM today. There were about four others waiting outside with me; poll worker said it was the first time there was a line outside the polling place in the morning.

I’m in the part of the district that is close to the City of Pittsburgh, so it’s heavily Dem.

I had to practically beg my BF, who lives in the rural part of the District, to vote today and tell his friends to vote. There’s not a lot of enthusiasm about this election from the (R) side.


4 posted on 03/13/2018 8:24:55 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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HEY, ALL YOU REPUBILICANS GET OUT AND VOTE....EARLY AND OFTEN...YOU HAVE TO BE BETTER CHEATERS THAN THE DAMN RATS.


5 posted on 03/13/2018 8:25:46 AM PDT by mastertex
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Trump has very little coattails. When you add the GOP candidates since Nov 2016 have been running against the DEM candidates *and* Trump simultaneously, it’s a recipe for political disaster.


7 posted on 03/13/2018 8:27:53 AM PDT by CatOwner
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I think it’s hard to get excited about a candidate like this. I hope he wins, because this will be spun by the MSM as a loss for Trump.


8 posted on 03/13/2018 8:29:17 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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Is the steel union really going to turn out the vote against Trump? Looks like it. Saccone seems to lack any lift from supporting Trump: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/steel-workers-pa-18/index.html


9 posted on 03/13/2018 8:31:06 AM PDT by Truth29
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What are the election integrity laws like in PA? Is there “same day voting?” Voter I.D. that doesn’t accept student I.D.’s?


10 posted on 03/13/2018 8:34:20 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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Remember that the GOPe in this state has a poster boy of Pat Toomey. Unlike tax cuts and illegal immigration (things in Saccone ads) being pro-gun means something in western PA. The GOP is seen as anti-gun and that equals disaster. Hope I’m wrong.


16 posted on 03/13/2018 8:43:42 AM PDT by Varda
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Both Saccone and the media will win tonight. Saccone wins by beating Lamb and the media wins because he won’t win by the DJT margin of (+/-) 20 points. A rematch is scheduled for November.


18 posted on 03/13/2018 8:48:33 AM PDT by JonPreston
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27 posted on 03/13/2018 9:08:46 AM PDT by varina davis (WHOEVER TELLS IT LIKE IT IS FOR 2020)
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Listening to Breitbart radio this morning, the thought that stands out most is that this is a special election that is extremely close to the mid-term election in November.

That means that whatever happens today will just be redone in November. Sure, the winner *may* have an advantage in November from running as an incumbent, but that person will have to start campaigning IMMEDIATELY after winning, so there won't be much of a record to run on.

Furthermore, turnout today may be impacted mostly by Democrat enthusiasm that might be more evenly matched by Republican enthusiasm in November than it is today.

So, the bottom line may be that the MSM gets a meme to play up for awhile, but that whatever happens today gets redone in November for real, when a "national" momentum will be in play.

-PJ

28 posted on 03/13/2018 9:10:24 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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I will tell you one thing, we have been bombarded with robo calls from the RNC et al... I had a republican canvasser come by on Sunday asking if I was going to the polls to vote for Saccone and I even got a personal phone message from President Donald J. Trump!! How could I refuse to vote after that?

Needless to say I went over lunch and pulled the lever for Saccone. Lamb is running an under the radar race where he doesn’t commit to any positions and does not talk against any of Trump’s proposals directly. Saccone is advertising he’s a true conservative and will be Trump’s wingman in Congress. They said traffic in the polling booth has been steady all day even though I was the only one in there voting. Most people I believe go to vote either before work or after so no surprise that it was not busy when I went in.


30 posted on 03/13/2018 9:10:40 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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My guess is Lamb wins.

GOP hasn’t given anyone a reason to vote for them.

/shrug


31 posted on 03/13/2018 9:13:25 AM PDT by chris37 (Laws donÂ’t prevent criminals from committing crimes. Guns prevent criminals from committing crimes.)
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My wife and I voted for Rick, at 9:00 AM and there are 6 voting machines 9 workers and just the two of us. I don't know how to read this in terms of good or bad.

During a regular election, there would be a line out the door, and during the 2016 election, I went at 7:00 AM and was at least 20+ back.

We just have to 'wait and see'.

32 posted on 03/13/2018 9:15:36 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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Honestly at this point, there really isn’t much to comment on. This one is a turnout race, as nearly all special/mid term elections are.

Weather is fine.

Dems and Trump haters are motivated and will crawl over broken glass to vote...

I have felt Saccone and the GOPe pacs messaging has not been appropriate to motivate turnout outside the hard core R’s who were going to show up anyway.

Saccone should still win by a few points, but it should not be as close as it is going to be, and it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Lamb pulls an upset.

I believe and have from the start, that Saccone’s and the GOPe PACs messaging was tin eared in this race. Typical republican red meat, attempt to tie the D to Pelosi. This sort of messaging could literally be from any election for any R candidate for the last 15+ years.

Seems to me that The GOPE/SACCONE seem to want to just rely on the district makeup to pull them over the finish line.... not really put out a strong motivation to get the MAGA voters (Is and cross over D’s who showed up for Trump) to come out to vote.

If this is the messaging they plan to run in the fall midterms, R’s will lose a lot of close districts, and the house.

Time will tell... this one fully boils down to turnout. If I am right, Lamb may pull an upset. If it is closer than 8 points GOP needs to wake up to reality before fall and fix their messaging.


34 posted on 03/13/2018 9:17:42 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Is it snowing in PA today?


35 posted on 03/13/2018 9:18:30 AM PDT by cotton1706
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Link to the PA Dept. of State page.

2018 Special Election 18th Congressional District

42 posted on 03/13/2018 9:24:26 AM PDT by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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Win!


45 posted on 03/13/2018 9:36:50 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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Amazin, 45 posts, Half mention turnout will decide it. ...

And not one mentions that turnout is created by boots on the ground going door to door.

Boots are even more important when the candidate lacks charisma.


53 posted on 03/13/2018 10:10:14 AM PDT by spintreebob
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