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Pennsylvania 18th Congressional District Special Election Thread, 03/12/2018, Saccone vs. Lamb

Posted on 03/13/2018 8:19:22 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX

Your comments, inputs, items of interest, relative weather in the district, turnout as the day goes by, voting problems with machines, equipment, things of interest to voters & observers, general overview, etc. are most welcome!!!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; lamb; pa2018; paspecialelection; saccone; trump
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To: knarf

For whatever it’s worth, Saccone appears to have suddenly pulled even in the yard sign race.


21 posted on 03/13/2018 8:57:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CatOwner
These are special elections which have many local issues involved.

We will see Trump's coattails in Nov.

22 posted on 03/13/2018 8:58:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: boycott

Saccone’s main problems IMHO:

1) He looks bad. In most of the ads he looks like a sloppily-dressed walrus. Not good when your opponent is young and telegenic.

2) He is a member of the PA Legislature, which is more than enough to make you distrust him right off the bat.

3) Republican voters are worn-out, disgusted and demotivated after years of pouring support behind Tim Murphy who turned out to be a two-timing plastic banana phony.

4) Democrats on the other hand are fully charged-up as the relentless Trump Hatred and calls to RESIST have them crawling over broken glass to get to the polls.


23 posted on 03/13/2018 9:03:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GOPJ

No, people DID show up to vote; that is why there was a line, albeit a small one, which the poll worker said was unprecedented.


24 posted on 03/13/2018 9:05:48 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Maybe it’s just my part of the district, but I’m not seeing any of that. I live in a very rural part of the 18th and I see way more Saccone support than Lamb.


25 posted on 03/13/2018 9:06:00 AM PDT by JenB987
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To: CatOwner

In reality, Pro-Trump, Pro-MAGA candidates have done very well in Congressional Races.

I still grin over the millions RATs burned through in Georgia last year only to lose LOL!!!


26 posted on 03/13/2018 9:06:26 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

save


27 posted on 03/13/2018 9:08:46 AM PDT by varina davis (WHOEVER TELLS IT LIKE IT IS FOR 2020)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Listening to Breitbart radio this morning, the thought that stands out most is that this is a special election that is extremely close to the mid-term election in November.

That means that whatever happens today will just be redone in November. Sure, the winner *may* have an advantage in November from running as an incumbent, but that person will have to start campaigning IMMEDIATELY after winning, so there won't be much of a record to run on.

Furthermore, turnout today may be impacted mostly by Democrat enthusiasm that might be more evenly matched by Republican enthusiasm in November than it is today.

So, the bottom line may be that the MSM gets a meme to play up for awhile, but that whatever happens today gets redone in November for real, when a "national" momentum will be in play.

-PJ

28 posted on 03/13/2018 9:10:24 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: CatOwner

You mean like the 5/5 US House races, the CD8 Race where we beat Ds 2:1, TX, where the Trump-related guys (even George P. Bush) won overwhelmingly? Those coattails?

The only place Trump has no coattails is where people run away from him or where the races are so localized no one pays attention.


29 posted on 03/13/2018 9:10:31 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I will tell you one thing, we have been bombarded with robo calls from the RNC et al... I had a republican canvasser come by on Sunday asking if I was going to the polls to vote for Saccone and I even got a personal phone message from President Donald J. Trump!! How could I refuse to vote after that?

Needless to say I went over lunch and pulled the lever for Saccone. Lamb is running an under the radar race where he doesn’t commit to any positions and does not talk against any of Trump’s proposals directly. Saccone is advertising he’s a true conservative and will be Trump’s wingman in Congress. They said traffic in the polling booth has been steady all day even though I was the only one in there voting. Most people I believe go to vote either before work or after so no surprise that it was not busy when I went in.


30 posted on 03/13/2018 9:10:40 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

My guess is Lamb wins.

GOP hasn’t given anyone a reason to vote for them.

/shrug


31 posted on 03/13/2018 9:13:25 AM PDT by chris37 (Laws donÂ’t prevent criminals from committing crimes. Guns prevent criminals from committing crimes.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
My wife and I voted for Rick, at 9:00 AM and there are 6 voting machines 9 workers and just the two of us. I don't know how to read this in terms of good or bad.

During a regular election, there would be a line out the door, and during the 2016 election, I went at 7:00 AM and was at least 20+ back.

We just have to 'wait and see'.

32 posted on 03/13/2018 9:15:36 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: chris37

75,000 more Democrats on the books in the district.


33 posted on 03/13/2018 9:17:16 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Honestly at this point, there really isn’t much to comment on. This one is a turnout race, as nearly all special/mid term elections are.

Weather is fine.

Dems and Trump haters are motivated and will crawl over broken glass to vote...

I have felt Saccone and the GOPe pacs messaging has not been appropriate to motivate turnout outside the hard core R’s who were going to show up anyway.

Saccone should still win by a few points, but it should not be as close as it is going to be, and it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Lamb pulls an upset.

I believe and have from the start, that Saccone’s and the GOPe PACs messaging was tin eared in this race. Typical republican red meat, attempt to tie the D to Pelosi. This sort of messaging could literally be from any election for any R candidate for the last 15+ years.

Seems to me that The GOPE/SACCONE seem to want to just rely on the district makeup to pull them over the finish line.... not really put out a strong motivation to get the MAGA voters (Is and cross over D’s who showed up for Trump) to come out to vote.

If this is the messaging they plan to run in the fall midterms, R’s will lose a lot of close districts, and the house.

Time will tell... this one fully boils down to turnout. If I am right, Lamb may pull an upset. If it is closer than 8 points GOP needs to wake up to reality before fall and fix their messaging.


34 posted on 03/13/2018 9:17:42 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Is it snowing in PA today?


35 posted on 03/13/2018 9:18:30 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: USS Alaska

Low turnout helps Lamp, period.

Dems and Trump haters are VERY motivated and angry they will be showing up. IF R’s and MAGA I’s and D’s don’t, Lamb very well can win.

Sadly I think the messaging for this race has been poor to motivate turnout of those groups from the get go.

This will be far closer than it should be, and Lamb very well may win.


36 posted on 03/13/2018 9:20:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: spincaster

Yeah, doesn’t look good.

Wasn’t particularly impressed with Rick either. Just my opinion, I’ve never even seen Lamb.

Trump’s election was the GOP’s chance to shine, and instead it showed its voters that it’s a total fraud.


37 posted on 03/13/2018 9:20:54 AM PDT by chris37 (Laws donÂ’t prevent criminals from committing crimes. Guns prevent criminals from committing crimes.)
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To: TheStickman

You are right on the money. The Republicans have won all five of the House Congressional seats last in 2017. They did lose the US Senate race in Alabama, mainly because they offered up a very flawed candidate in Judge, Roy Bean, who was weak on many fronts.

Now, I readily admit that Rick Saccone is not the most attractive man in the world, but, if you look at his rap sheet, 22 years in the Air Force, an Intelligence Officer, an expert on North Korea, a good, decent public servant, with his two sons serving in the Air Force today, he actually is a pretty decent candidate.

I am not looking for a pretty boy....I am looking for someone that will support POTUS, Donald J. Trump, 100% of the time. Rick Saccone is that man. Conon Lamb is not, and never would or will be, if elected, Mr. Lamb whether he utters it or not, is the political slave to whatever, Democrat Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi orders him to do...he will do just as she always wishes. Anyone that believes the soft pablum dished out by Conon Lamb, is not living in this real world, and they are only fooling themselves. Maybe they all liked being out-of-work, living on food stamps and government handouts when Obama was POTUS!!! We shall see, this evening!!!


38 posted on 03/13/2018 9:21:34 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: cotton1706

snowshowers nothing that is going to drastically affect turn out that I can see.


39 posted on 03/13/2018 9:22:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Truth29
Speaking of steel....

MSNBC’s Velshi Patronizes Steel Worker: ‘You Don’t Want Your Son Being a Steel Worker I Assume’

40 posted on 03/13/2018 9:23:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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