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Why Democrats Would Lose the Second Civil War, Too
Townhall.com ^ | March 12, 2018 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 03/11/2018 9:08:18 PM PDT by Kaslin

It’s obvious that the central tenet of the Democrat Party platform is now hatred and contempt for Normal Americans. Taking their cue from the elites in Europe and Canada who are stripping dissenters of their free speech rights and religious freedoms, the leftist elite is moving to solidify its hold on power here with the eager assistance of tech companies and the moral support of the Fredocons who yearn to return to pseudo-relevance as the ruling class’s slobberingly loyal opposition. In California, the leftist government is practically firing on Fort Sumter. And nationally, these aspiring fascists are especially eager to disarm Normal Americans – doing so would be an object lesson in who’s the boss, as well as solving that frustrating problem of the Normals having the ability to resist.

Probably because I’ve spent time where they actually had a civil war, many people ask me – people whose names you know – whether I think this turmoil will all end in a Second Civil War. They are seriously concerned, and not without cause – the left’s hatred for Normal Americans and its dedication to totally stripping the people who are the backbone of this country of their ability to participate in their own governance is threatening to rip the country apart.

Do I think there will be a civil war? No, but there could be. This is the Age of Black Swans, and anything is possible – we could easily see the country split into red and blue. Civil war is unlikely, but never underestimate Democrat stupidity and hatred. The Schlichter family learned that lesson a century and half ago, the last time the Democrats decided to try to impose their hatred of basic human rights on the rest of the country, when an army of Democrats burned our family hometown

Oh, they paid for it. And they would pay again. Democrats are 0-1 in insurrections, and if they went for another round, they would be 0-2. It’s a matter of terrain, numbers, and morale.

Democrats, who think history began when Obama was elected, don’t understand the dangerous game they are playing when they talk about how they want to impose their brown shirt vision upon red America. The keyboard commandos of the left seek to hand wave away the massive strategic challenge of imposing control by force upon a well-armed, decentralized citizenry occupying the vast majority of the territory, so they babble about drones and tanks as counterinsurgency trump cards. But there are no trump cards in war. There are men, with rifles, standing on patches of dirt, killing the people trying to push them off. That’s the ugly reality of war. And multiply the usual brutality of war by ten when it’s a civil war.

There are two Civil War II scenarios, and the left is poorly positioned to prevail in either one. The first scenario is that the Democrats take power and violate the Constitution in order to use the apparatus of the federal government to suppress and oppress Normal Americans. In that scenario, red Americans are the insurgents. In the second scenario, which we can even now see the stirrings of in California’s campaign to nullify federal immigration law, it is the blue states that are the insurgents.

The Democrats lose both wars. Big time.

Let’s talk terrain and numbers. Remember the famous red v. blue voting map? There is a lot of red, and in the interior the few blue splotches are all cities like Las Vegas or Denver. That is a lot of territory for a counter-insurgent force to control, and this is critical. The red is where the food is grown, the oil pumped, and through which everything is transported. And that red space is filled with millions of American citizens with small arms, a fairly large percentage of whom have military training.

Remember what two untrained idiots did in Boston with a couple of pistols? They shut a city down. Now multiply that by several million, with better weapons and training.

Let’s look at the counter-insurgent forces in the Democrat oppression scenario should they attempt to misuse our law enforcement and military in an unconstitutional manner to take the rights of American citizens. There are a lot of civilian law enforcement officers, but the vast majority of the agencies are local – sheriffs, small town police departments. They will not be reliable allies in supporting unlawful oppression of their friends and neighbors. The major cities’ police departments are run by Democrat appointees, so the commands would be loyal. But the rank-and-file? A small percentage would be ideologically loyal. More would be loyal because that’s their paycheck – they could be swayed or intimidated to support the rebels. Others would be actively sympathetic to the insurgents. This is true of federal law enforcement agencies as well.

And the military? Well, wouldn’t the military just crush any resistance? Not so fast. The military would have the combat power to win any major engagement, but insurgents don’t get into major engagements with forces that have more combat power. They instead leverage their decentralized ability to strike at the counter-insurgents’ weak points to eliminate the government’s firepower advantage. In other words, hit and run, and no stand-up fights.

For example, how do a bunch of hunters in Wisconsin defeat a company of M1A2 Abrams tanks? They ambush the fuel and ammo trucks. Oh, and they wait until the gunner pops the hatch to take a leak and put a .30-06 round in his back from 300 meters. Then they disappear. What do the tanks do then? Go level the nearest town? Great. Now they just moved the needle in favor of the insurgents among the population. Pretty soon, they can’t be outside of their armored vehicles in public. Their forces are spending 90% of their efforts not on actual counter-insurgency operations but on force protection. Sure, they own their forward operating bases, and they own a few hundred meters around them wherever they happen to be standing at the moment, but the rest of the territory is bright red. As my recent novel illustrates, American guerillas with small arms are a deadly threat to the forces of a dictatorship.

But the military is so big it would overwhelm any rebels, right? Well, how big do you think the military is? And, more importantly, how many actual boots on the ground can it deploy? Let’s put it in terms of brigade combat teams, which total about 4,500 troops each. There are about 60 brigades in the Army, active and reserve, here and abroad, and let’s give the Marines another 10 brigades, for about 70 brigades. Sounds impressive. But that’s deceptive.

Let’s put aside a big consideration – the existence of red states that would provide for an insurgent government structure and possibly attract the loyalty of some National Guard and even federal brigades. For example, if President Hillary Clinton put down her chardonnay long enough to sign a ban on privately owned guns, it’s not unreasonable to expect the governor of Texas to reject federal authority – after all, California just taught us that this is totally cool. But in this case, look for several brigades located there to hoist the Lone Star flag.

So, now the blue states are facing unconventional and conventional forces.

Let’s ignore that problem and focus on a different challenge. Even a normal unit has about 10% non-deployable members. Now, if these troops were assigned to combat operations against other Americans, you would have significant additional losses through desertion. Many of the senior leaders would participate – the Obama generation – and there is a certain type of junior officer only too happy to curry favor by sucking up in defiance of their oath (which is to the Constitution, not to some leftist president). You can identify them because they usually have “strategist” in their Twitter bios. But a lot of key, capable officer and NCO leaders, and enlisted troops, would vanish. That is proper. It is a violation of their oath to unconstitutionally oppress fellow Americans; their duty would be to refuse such unlawful orders.

So, you have significantly understrength units going in. Now, how many of the troops in a brigade are actually even front line combat troops? About a third – the rest are support. So a brigade is really about 1500 riflemen tops before you count losses. Cut those in half for sleep, training, and refitting at any one time (which is very generous) and your brigade is really 750 troops on your best day with everyone showing up. Realistically, it’s 300.

That holds one mid-sized town. And there are hundreds of mid-sized towns. Plus there are millions of Normal Americans who would fight back. Nothing would move without their permission – a few guys shooting up big rigs along the interstate would shut down the entire trucking industry. Bottom line: there simply are not enough military forces to clear and hold red America.

What about drones and bombers? Both are useful. But the minute a bombing strike kills some red civilians the families of counter-insurgent drone operators and pilots will be knocking at the base gates to be let inside. Now you’ll need many of those brigades to protect the civilians you now need to protect from retribution.

Civil wars are harsh. That’s why you avoid them.

How about the blue insurgency scenario? That goes even worse for the Democrats. You have the federal government apparatus in the hands of red America, and the insurgents are the opposite of decentralized and armed. They are conveniently centered in gun-unfriendly blue cities. In other words, the blue civilian population is much less of a threat.

A red counter-insurgency avoids the problem of a decentralized insurgency and insecure logistical lines. In the case of California, whose secessionist antics are approaching the point where President Trump could legitimately employ his power to crush insurrections, the tactical problem is relatively simple. For example, San Francisco is a hotbed of treason, but the populace is largely unarmed and is trapped in a confined area. You put a brigade on securing the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges, then put a brigade on the San Francisco Peninsula to cut off the I-280 and US-101 corridors. Next you go to the Crystal Springs Dam and cut off the water. Then you watch and wait as the tech hipsters run out of artisanal sushi rice and kombucha.

After about a week, they surrender. After all, you can’t eat and drink smugness. LA is just bigger in scope – more corridors to cut off, but in the end the population concentrations in large liberal urban areas that are their strength also make them extremely vulnerable to logistical pressure.

Then there’s another factor, an intangible but a crucial one. It’s commitment. The Democrat threat to peace is based on its policies designed to deprive Normal Americans of their right to speak freely, to worship freely, and to defend themselves and their rights with firearms. Make no mistake – millions of Normal Americans are willing to risk death to defend those rights. In fact, many swore to do so when they entered our military and law enforcement. But who is the leftist big talker willing to die to impose the fascist dream of censorship, religious oppression, and disarmament on Normal American citizens? Is the screeching SJW at Yale going to suit up in Kevlar? Is the Vox columnist going to grab a M4? Is the Hollywood poser going to switch her gyno-beanie for a helmet?

No. Hell, we just heard our liberal opponents explaining why a cop shouldn’t be expected to go fight a scumbag murdering kids because it’s scary. America might split apart, but it’s highly unlikely Team Kale n’ Vinyl would fight should their big talk finally push Normal America too far.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: calltgeavengers; civilwar; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; democrats
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To: GOPJ
Schlichter is always readable, and given his military background, he games this out quite nicely. What he doesn't game out, and the concept that frightens me the most, is what happens when the UN, or worse, the Chinese, decide to intervene? The Chinese would have the most to lose in such a scenario as we're their number one trading partner and debtor nation. They would have to intervene to protect that, and also because it would finally give them the world domination that they've sought for decades. And they've got the manpower (although perhaps not the logistics to move it across the Pacific), to completely upset his brigade coverage math.

Best bet, as he says, is just not to play this game.

61 posted on 03/12/2018 3:28:13 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: .44 Special
By and large the US military would refuse to take action against the US population

But this is why California secessionists have such an advantage.

62 posted on 03/12/2018 3:29:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Mogger
"It is so easy to shut down food, electricity, fuel and water to cities, the leftist crazies wouldn't stand a chance."

You are exactly right. It is very doubtful that the left has thought this out very far.

Cut off food and fuel deliveries and electricity, which is not difficult, and the cities turn into cauldrons of anarchy in hours. Most city dwellers are painfully lacking in survival skills in such a situation. These are people who call 911 when Popeye's runs out of chicken. They wouldn't be able to start a cook fire let alone prepare food on it.

Within a week any governmental authority that remained would not be able to cope with the dead bodies.

63 posted on 03/12/2018 3:29:21 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Yuppie 4 X 4 syndrome, noted in the early 90’s. Even w/ ABS they miss judge their braking distances and the auto body shops love it....


64 posted on 03/12/2018 3:30:09 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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To: akalinin
"I would be especially wary of the Chinese. They could put millions of men on three fronts (Canada, California and Mexico) in short order."

Do you really think that? The Chinese do have a plan. They want Taiwan, the Paracels, and the Spratleys. After that they want to occupy or neutralize Korea, Japan, and Siberia. They are not going to leapfrog the USN and cross the Pacific with "millions of men" in our lifetimes.

65 posted on 03/12/2018 3:51:11 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Jack Black; archy; Travis McGee

Ping


66 posted on 03/12/2018 3:56:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ArtDodger

The liberal’s would be heavily armed and well financed.


67 posted on 03/12/2018 3:57:41 AM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: 100American

Pike has it backwards on just about every point in his dissertation, as many Luciferians do.


68 posted on 03/12/2018 4:05:46 AM PDT by semaj (U\)
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To: thoughtomator
WTF is the "EBT system"?

ALWAYS define your acronyms at least once, preferably the first time you use them.

69 posted on 03/12/2018 4:46:24 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Kaslin

bump


70 posted on 03/12/2018 4:52:17 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Kaslin

Actually this article is BS. If a state secedes vi referendum then the WHOLE state is under new authority. The citizens of the new country can be drafted, have the right to vote, and will have rights under that new countries constitution. They may not like it but that is tough sh!t. All of this bellicose insurgent talk is crap. If CA were to vote on secession and become an independent country there would be no rebellion inside of CA. Nobody is going to throw away their property and rights like that and take to the ills with their AR-15. LOL Sorry this is poppycock.


71 posted on 03/12/2018 5:11:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Why would we stop trading with California when we trade with Communist China?


72 posted on 03/12/2018 5:13:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Wonder Warthog
WTF is the "EBT system"?

It's our electronic food stamp system. It's been defined as such for a long long time. Shut it down and the ferals begin their trek to starvation.

73 posted on 03/12/2018 5:19:47 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Kate's Wall, build it!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I see you read Col Schlichter’s book.


74 posted on 03/12/2018 5:26:06 AM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero)
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To: WildHighlander57

You’re welcome.


75 posted on 03/12/2018 5:30:21 AM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero)
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To: Kaslin

Wolverines!!!


76 posted on 03/12/2018 5:41:54 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: .44 Special
Yeah, everybody talks about how patriotic and conservative the troops are or the police or the other federal agents.

Have you heard what comes out of the mouths of black Army soldiers when talking about “their white American” flag? How about the future officer corps at West Point with Che T-shirts or groups of black cadets with raised fists in solidarity against “the man”.

Or how a lesbian and her wife are running the USAF academy like a re-education camp.

Tell me about the patriotic FBI against that protested and resigned after Ruby Ridge, Waco or when Elian Gonzales was kidnapped and sent back to communist Cuba.

The paycheck and brain washing will make the military and police kill civilians. In their minds it will be an “us v them” and all they want is “to get home safe”. You are way to idealistic. Everybody wants to be a patriot till it’s time to do patriot stuff. My grandfather fought in the Mexican revolution and the Cristero war. A REAL civil war. The one thing he told me that stands out is , “the man with the gun make the rules. Don’t ever let go of your guns.”

77 posted on 03/12/2018 5:48:04 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: Kaslin

I fear Mr. Schlicter is far too sanguine. Just look at how NY, NJ, CT, CA and many others are incrementally pushing their citizens around. 7-10 round magazine capacity? Give me a fricken break! No “assault weapons”? Where’s that rebellious spirit and push back? Apparently the majority eats it up. It’s here and they’ve got it. Check and mate.


78 posted on 03/12/2018 6:14:40 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ArtDodger

Which would also destroy the economy in the “red” areas.

Historically, when this happens (China, Spain, etc), the rural areas often win. However, it is at such a cost that “winning” often means “breaking everything”.


79 posted on 03/12/2018 6:14:57 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: akalinin

One word
Logistics.

Supplying a few million man army in CA would be difficult, if not impossible.

And once they left the coasts things get rather sporting. We have a lot of space that could be used to chew up any advancing army. How many only sons of Chinese parents do you think that they could lose till their population snaps?


80 posted on 03/12/2018 6:19:18 AM PDT by redgolum
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